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Posted on 2/22/15 at 10:10 am to dallasga6
I wanna read his annual 2014 game by game prediction to see if he was pumping that much sunshine into last season. They are really counting on this recruiting class to be good. I just don't thok butch jones is a great coach. Average at best. They lost some stupid games last season and I can see that happening against this year
Posted on 2/22/15 at 11:46 am to wdhalgren
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The only definite dropoff I see is at RB, and that's not a big one because Gurley missed half the season.
Gurley's best year he rushed for 1385 yards. Chubb ran for 1547 yards last season after playing very little in his first 5 games. I think we won't see nay drop off at RB. I think we are actually deeper than we have ever been.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 12:00 pm to DawgsLife
When I assess our team, that's now how I look at things. The way I see it, we traded Todd Gurley for Tae Crowder. So I see it as a drop off at RB. Also, people can debate this, and probably will repeatedly, but I think Gurley was a better RB than Chubb. That's not a knock on Chubb because I think Gurley is a great RB.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 12:10 pm to wdhalgren
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The way I see it, we traded Todd Gurley for Tae Crowder. So I see it as a drop off at RB.
I understand what you mean. My thinking is that we typically only have one RB on the field at a time. I think Chubb is not as brittle as Gurley and stays on the field, and I think Marshall will be all the way back.
However, you are dealing with reality and I am dealing with wishfulness. Reality typically beats wishfullness every time.
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I think Gurley was a better RB than Chubb.
As a complete player you might be right. but I would take Chubb over Gurley based on Chubb being able to stay on the field. Gurley simply could not stay on the field because of injuries, bad decisions, etc. Don't get me wrong...I LOVED Gurley. But in all honesty, I cringed whenever he took a big hit.
When it is all said and done we will know.
I am NOT, however as concerned about our QB as many on here are. (Not aimed at you) Everybody complained about our inability to throw a long pass and stretch the field last season, and I think it hurt our offense. We WILL stretch the field better this year, but we will also have more INT's. But that is typical when you throw more down the field. It is a tradeoff. I expect us to throw it deep more and have more INT's, but I don't expect it to hurt us as much as some on here do.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 12:18 pm to DawgsLife
As long as we keep most of our top three RB's healthy, it's not a big concern either way. Having a "dropoff" to Chubb, Michel, and a healthy Keith Marshall is a pretty good place to be. And I'm still hopeful that AJ Turman will be a pleasant addition to this group.
I agree with what you're saying about QB. People underestimate the positive effects that a downfield passer has on our style of offense. Despite the strong statistics last year, that offense was not diverse enough to win a championship, IMO. We need to pass more and more effectively, and any increase in interceptions may well be offset by having more ways to attack a defense.
I agree with what you're saying about QB. People underestimate the positive effects that a downfield passer has on our style of offense. Despite the strong statistics last year, that offense was not diverse enough to win a championship, IMO. We need to pass more and more effectively, and any increase in interceptions may well be offset by having more ways to attack a defense.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 12:25 pm to Dawgs9
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I like Tennessee against Georgia at their place next season
This.....
Tenn has been way down the last few years and we still damn near lost a few, now they are on there way back up, plus we still have CMR to motivate our team which is something he really suxs at other than beating a head football coach
As much as a lot of Vol fans have false bravado, some of our fans are "wusses". Maybe it rubs off on the players and coaches. We are returning arguably the best running game in all of CFB, setting up a great situation for any QB. We also are in the second year of a Pruitt D. All UT has done is put up a winning season and had a couple of good recruiting classes (we've had equal or better). It's a rivalry and, yes, we could lose in K'ville. But we start out the season much higher ranked and the prognosticators think UGA is the better program. So why shouldn't UGA fans think that way?
Grow some nads!
Posted on 2/22/15 at 12:28 pm to wdhalgren
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We need to pass more and more effectively, and any increase in interceptions may well be offset by having more ways to attack a defense.
Agreed. I LOVED the way we wore Clemson down,but you simply can't win like that consistently. Sooner or later you run into somebody that can shut the run down and you are in trouble. You have to make them respect the pass. You dont have to be great passing, but capable. You drop 2-3 long passes on a team and they start respecting the pass and pull the DB back off the line a bit.
I'm with you on Turman. I think he could be a big key. I like Douglas, too. I don't remember him fumbling as much and I think he can be the battering ram that makes defenses quit. He did it against South Carolina two years ago and can do it all year if given the chance. But if Turman steps up this year it could be huge....
Posted on 2/22/15 at 12:30 pm to Cobb Dawg
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As much as a lot of Vol fans have false bravado, some of our fans are "wusses". Maybe it rubs off on the players and coaches. We are returning arguably the best running game in all of CFB, setting up a great situation for any QB. We also are in the second year of a Pruitt D. All UT has done is put up a winning season and had a couple of good recruiting classes (we've had equal or better). It's a rivalry and, yes, we could lose in K'ville. But we start out the season much higher ranked and the prognosticators think UGA is the better program. So why shouldn't UGA fans think that way?
Grow some nads!
People get scared of Tennessee because they have been pretty bad lately, yet still play us close. I chalk that up to untimely injuries more than anything. While they concern me, they do not scare me.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:03 pm to DawgsLife
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While they concern me, they do not scare me.
What concerns me is their ongoing recruiting of top athletes in our state. Of course they have not choice since their own state doesn't produce many football recruits.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:11 pm to davesdawgs
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What concerns me is their ongoing recruiting of top athletes in our state. Of course they have not choice since their own state doesn't produce many football recruits.
That doesn't concern me. I don't care if our top recruits are from Georgia or if they are from Montana. I just want the very best classes we can get. I've always felt way too much attention is placed on where a kid comes from.
I would rather have the top 10 recruits in the nation than all the recruits in Georgia. Granted that is unreasonable....but what difference does it make if our recruits are from here or from somewhere else?
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:17 pm to davesdawgs
quote:Who have they gotten worth a shite besides Preston Williams?
What concerns me is their ongoing recruiting of top athletes in our state. Of course they have not choice since their own state doesn't produce many football recruits.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:21 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Who have they gotten worth a shite besides Preston Williams?
Their DL haul this year was VERY impressive. But, of course, their OL is what needs a lot of work. not sure what they got there.
Or are you mainly talking out of Georgia?
This post was edited on 2/22/15 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:27 pm to davesdawgs
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What concerns me is their ongoing recruiting of top athletes in our state.
It always feels that way because opposing fans love to crow when they "steal" a highly rated recruit from Georgia. But, if you pay close attention, quite often there are signs that UGA coaches may not have been quite as gungHo as the fans about a certain player. Sometimes those reasons aren't obvious until later, when the player fails out, or gets into trouble, or just isn't as talented as was commonly thought.
I did a little "study" two or three years ago to see what happened to top 50 recruits from Georgia that left the state. I don't have the data now, but they had a much higher rate of attrition than the ones that stayed home. I'd imagine if you go back 10 years or so and looked at just Tennesse, you'll find a few top recruits from Georgia who turned out to be steady contributors at UT, and a whole lot who never did much, or got into a lot of trouble.
This post was edited on 2/22/15 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:37 pm to wdhalgren
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I did a little "study" two or three years ago to see what happened to top 50 recruits from Georgia that left the state. I don't have the data now, but they had a much higher rate of attrition than the ones that stayed home.
Very interesting. Wish you still had the data. that would make for an very interesting thread.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:39 pm to wdhalgren
Since 2010 tenn has signed a ttl of 7 of the top 20 players from Ga... That's 7 outta 120 since 2010...
For comparisons sake Bama has pulled 9 of 120 & AU 16 of 120 since 2010...
UGA pulled 43 outta the top 120 since 2010...
For comparisons sake Bama has pulled 9 of 120 & AU 16 of 120 since 2010...
UGA pulled 43 outta the top 120 since 2010...
This post was edited on 2/22/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 2/22/15 at 2:19 pm to DawgsLife
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Wish you still had the data.
I should have kept it. It turned into a fair amount of work figuring out what happened to players after they started college. I also gained an appreciation for how other teams quietly cull their players who either don't pan out or get into trouble, while UGA's inevitably end up splashed across multiple headlines from the AJC with as much acrimonious commentary as they can possibly find or create.
This post was edited on 2/22/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 2/22/15 at 2:26 pm to wdhalgren
Everybody feels good about their school and wants to believe their school does a good job...but I honestly believe Georgia does a good job with our kids. We have some that get into trouble, but so does everybody. We have, for the most part been able to avoid any really serious problems. No armed robberies etc. and when we do have a problem Georgia acts promptly to remove the player from the team. I really think a renewed dedication to this has happened since the big blowup when Caleb Kig, Crowell, etc came through. I also believe doing those things enables us to attract good players like Malcolm Mitchell, Chris Conley, Nick Chubb and Keith Marshall. MOST good kids want to be around other good kids. kids that want to work hard and get ready for the NFL....not players that want to get into trouble and cost themselves money.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 4:27 pm to dallasga6
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UGA pulled 43 outta the top 120 since 2010...
And for the top 25 in the state we've pulled the following the last five years:
2015: 9
2014: 6
2013: 8
2012: 3
2011: 13
We bricked in '12 but have done pretty well outside of that. We keep about 1/3 of all GA players in state, and we're only a short drive away from all the other big time contenders: UF, FSU, AU, Clemson, Bama, UTK, SC.
I'd argue that we've actually done pretty well considering the competition.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:03 pm to wdhalgren
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The way I see it, we traded Todd Gurley for Tae Crowder.
I would say we traded Gurley for a healthy Marshall and Michel. Michel was dinged up all year, and might be getting the accolades now if he had been healthy for that Missouri game and started ahead of Chubb.
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