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Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:17 pm to ATLdawg25
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:17 pm to ATLdawg25
I don't think people truly understand how good Michel is. Michel was 2nd behind Gurley in our opener for a reason.
Hitting tired teams with a Chubb/Michel combo just won't be fair (in a good way
).
And if Marshall can fully recover ....
Hitting tired teams with a Chubb/Michel combo just won't be fair (in a good way
). And if Marshall can fully recover ....
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Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:20 pm to ATLdawg25
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would say we traded Gurley for a healthy Marshall and Michel. Michel was dinged up all year,
The only thing that has meaningfully changed with RB depth year over year is the addition of Crowder and subtraction of Gurley. Marshall's recovery is still undetermined. Turman is still unknown. Michel is healthy now, but he was healthy before the season started last year too.
It's highly likely we'll have some RB's injured before or during next season too. You can't assume we'll have no injuries next season to make the case that we're deeper as of right now because we had injuries last season.
This post was edited on 2/22/15 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:58 pm to wdhalgren
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The only thing that has meaningfully changed with RB depth year over year is the addition of Crowder and subtraction of Gurley.
Ignoring the injuries to Michel and Marshall is a bit short sighted.
To go back to your original analysis of trading Gurley for Crowder - if Crowder gets the same proportion of snaps that Gurley got last year, then yeah, we're fricked and there will be a significant drop off. But the likelihood of that happening is pretty low, and to assume that would be much more hyperbolic than me assuming Michel and Marshall will stay healthier than last year.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 7:33 pm to dallasga6
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tenn. is currently on a 0 for 26 streak vs Alabama, Georgia, Florida and Missouri...
Yet Vol fans will tell you that they're a shoo-in for the East and only Bama's in their way for a NC.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 9:07 pm to Cobb Dawg
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But we start out the season much higher ranked and the prognosticators think UGA is the better program. So why shouldn't UGA fans think that way?
The best team on paper doesn't always win. That's why. And it's there. After Alabama. They play us tough almost every year. We lose a couple every year that we shouldn't. That being said, I think we will handle them.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 9:53 pm to Hobnail
Isn't Dobbs the Vol QB who shite the bed against Mizzou last year?
As inexperienced as our QBs are this year, I'll take both Park and Ramsey over Dobbs.
As inexperienced as our QBs are this year, I'll take both Park and Ramsey over Dobbs.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 10:11 pm to DawgsLife
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I am NOT, however as concerned about our QB as many on here are. (Not aimed at you) Everybody complained about our inability to throw a long pass and stretch the field last season, and I think it hurt our offense. We WILL stretch the field better this year, but we will also have more INT's. But that is typical when you throw more down the field. It is a tradeoff. I expect us to throw it deep more and have more INT's, but I don't expect it to hurt us as much as some on here do.
I hope you are right but I'm worried that we will miss Mason's accuracy on short and intermediate throws. It looked like Hutson's arm or shoulder was hurt early in the season but later on he was strong. The efficiency was off the charts
I hope Park looks better than Ramsey's looked so far. In fact, I hope they both play great and both get a chance.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 12:21 am to ATLdawg25
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Ignoring the injuries to Michel and Marshall is a bit short sighted.
I'm not ignoring those injuries. I'm saying the only logical way to compare depth is to do it at similar points in time, because attrition occurs over time. They haven't even had the first contact scrimmage of spring ball, so all the injury potential, which was realized last season, is still ahead.
Our running back group has two main personnel differences from this time last year. We don't have Todd Gurley, and we do have Tae Crowder. Marshall's situation was uncertain both times, as was Turman's. If you think that makes our running back corps look better for 2015 than it was for 2014, we'll have to disagree. It could turn out that way if everyone stays healthy and available for all the games next season, but as of right now there is a dropoff.
This post was edited on 2/23/15 at 12:36 am
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:10 am to SICEMDAWGS11
They should have 1 or 2 losses coming in to the game, Okie at home, and Gators away.
I do think they beat us this year. They are getting better and should have won the last 2 actually.
I mark this one down as a L.
I do think they beat us this year. They are getting better and should have won the last 2 actually.
I mark this one down as a L.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 7:27 am to WhopperDawg
Sad state of affairs when fans predict L's to lower-ranked, younger teams. I remember a time when we won almost all of the ones we were supposed to, and many we weren't. I understand that UT has had a couple of good classes, and that several of the games in our 11-4 run have been close. But that might be because we overlooked them, which we shouldn't do, especially now. I think we Smoke them in K'ville with a clock/ball control that they can't stop.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 7:37 am to ATLdawg25
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Michel and Marshall will stay healthier than last year.
You can't lump Michel and Marshall together concerning injuries. Wasn't Michel's only injury due to an odd and very hard hit on the shoulder? How is that related to knee and fear of getting hit?
Posted on 2/23/15 at 7:42 am to wdhalgren
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people can debate this, and probably will repeatedly, but I think Gurley was a better RB than Chubb.
You make it sound like you have an oddball, hair brained point of view.
Gurley is the 2nd best RB to ever put on a UGA uniform. It blows my mind how unbelievably short sighted people are that already think Chubb is better. He's not. He's an extremely talented RB that had an amazing, phenomenal freshman season. But to say he's better than gurley is just false.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 7:48 am to Cobb Dawg
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I remember a time
Remember well. I remember a time when playing in the Independence Bowl was not a job well done and getting beaten there to boot.
They haven't had a couple of good classes, they have had 4 straight top 10 classes and they should have beaten us the last 2 years. Jones has it going on up there from the ashes of Dooley and Kiffin. The team takes on the image and persona of the head coach. Jones is as energized and fired up as Richt is placid and laid back.
They take the W this year, you heard it here first.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 7:50 am to WG_Dawg
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He's an extremely talented RB that had an amazing, phenomenal freshman season. But to say he's better than gurley is just false.
Well, if Chubb keeps putting up those insane numbers each year, then I will say that he is better...
Posted on 2/23/15 at 7:54 am to Spaceman Spiff
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if Chubb keeps putting up those insane numbers each year
Yeah and if Herschel played 4 years he may have 2 heismans, 2 national titles, 4 SEC titles, and a slew of records that will never be touched but he didn't did he?
People are saying right NOW that chubb is better than gurley. He isn't. There's more to things than simply looking at the black and white numbers. I can use my eyeballs watching both players and see that gurley is better, and I don't care if chubb puts up 1,500 yards each of the next 3 seasons I will still feel the same way unless chubb takes his game to a different level. Gurley is just one of those AP type backs that is simply on another level than everyone else.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:08 am to Spaceman Spiff
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You can't lump Michel and Marshall together concerning injuries. Wasn't Michel's only injury due to an odd and very hard hit on the shoulder? How is that related to knee and fear of getting hit?
The two are not related. The fact that both players were not at 100% last year is the only similarity, but regardless - they should be healthier to begin 2015 than they were for most of last year.
I'm also not saying that we will go the entire year without injuries. But last year in the Missouri and Arkansas games, we were relying on Douglas to spell Chubb. This year, we will have two legit 5 star backs coming off the bench.
Gurley is irreplaceable, but Chubb is about as close as we could possibly get. I think our overall depth is at least on par with last year assuming Michel and Marshall are healthier.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:21 am to ATLdawg25
Last year was the best stable of backs any team has ever had- too bad injuries and suspensions ruined what could have been.
Imagine if Gurley, Marshall, Chubb, and Michel were all healthy last year and played in every game. It would have been a running attack more dominant than any college football has seen.
That said, if Chubb and Michel stay healthy and Marshall gets his game back together we have potential to be better than last year (which was hindered from reaching its full potential).
Imagine if Gurley, Marshall, Chubb, and Michel were all healthy last year and played in every game. It would have been a running attack more dominant than any college football has seen.
That said, if Chubb and Michel stay healthy and Marshall gets his game back together we have potential to be better than last year (which was hindered from reaching its full potential).
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:27 am to Hobnail
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That said, if Chubb and Michel stay healthy and Marshall gets his game back together we have potential to be better than last year
About as accurate as it gets, I think. If you assume some health concerns, then I think a small dropoff is to be expected. I don't know if Chubb will be as unstoppable as he was last year, but you would have to think Michel's increase in touches might make up for that.
In any case, I think we can all agree that we are in a very enviable position with our stable of running backs. I would much rather argue about whether our rushing attack will be top 10 or top 20 vs talking about the potential quagmire at QB if Ramsey doesn't step up
This post was edited on 2/23/15 at 8:27 am
Posted on 2/23/15 at 2:35 pm to Cobb Dawg
This Vols team could be Auburn 2010...
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Everything about this team reminds me of auburn in 2010.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 2:38 pm to dallasga6
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Everything about this team reminds me of auburn in 2010.
I'm thinking they might have overpaid for Dobbs.
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