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Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by SumterCoDawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:47 pm to
We're having to play a ton of Freshmen and Sophomores this year because we have no depth. Sure, guys like Julian Rochester, Michail Carter, Nauta, Woerner, Eason and others have the potential to be All-SEC type of players in the future, but right now they're green freshmen who are still figuring things out. At any other top half SEC school most of those guys are either redshirting or at the very least aren't asked to do as much as we're asking them to do, but here they're having to be thrown into the fire. Combine our youth all over the field with an offensive line primarily made up of undersized guys or guys playing out of position and its no wonder why we've seen some poor play this year.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23983 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:47 pm to
I didnt think we would go undefeated at all, 9-3 would be fine, I just dont like how bad we looked yesterday. And 3 out of the 4 games this year.

Richt got blown out a lot too. But it took him about 4 years for that to happen. I dont think OM has that much more talent than us. They have senior QB and tall receivers, but that shouldn't explain the arse whipping we received yesterday.

I saw a lot of poor technique from our secondary. Something you didnt see much of when Pruitt was here.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:47 pm to
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Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6940 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:48 pm to
Been on the Georgia bandwagon since 1964. That's 5 HCs and I might see another before I'm gone.
Just because I'm not in love with Kirby Smart doesn't mean I don't love My Dawgs.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:48 pm to
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eah they act like all these guys are Kirby's players. Remember, this is still M Richt's team.


To a point, this is an honest observation. However, in fairness most of these guys were recruited by Alabama. Depth, is a major issue. Nobody can argue that. But it's not honest to say we have no talent and point fingers at Richt.


Likewise, it isn't honest to absolve Richt of all responsibility. We all need to give Smart some time before we burn the school down.


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Also everyone probably would of predicted us to have like 3-4 losses this year and we are on schedule for that.


Exactly this. I am always surprised at how everybody can say they expect to lose a game and then do a complete meltdown when we lose the game. Just like clockwork it happens.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:49 pm to
I actually think we called a pretty good game too. Only glaring mistake was sending out the pos kicker in the first half. O line looked better than I expected. Eason is clearly a frosh making frosh mistakes. Receivers SUCK. Briscoe SUCKS. Kickers SUCK. O line outmanned. But it was an improvement imho vs Nicholls and Mizzou. Baby steps
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6940 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:54 pm to
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He needs his kids. Little talent and no depth on this roster. Especially where it counts.


Ever since NSD we've heard from some in here that this was the most talented team ever and we were going to the SECCG and maybe to a playoff spot.
Now some of those same folks are blaming Richt for leaving no talent? Guess that Oline we had last year suddenly turned sour like last weeks milk. Right?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:54 pm to
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I didnt think we would go undefeated at all, 9-3 would be fine, I just dont like how bad we looked yesterday. And 3 out of the 4 games this year.




This is a legitimate complaint. We have looked bad in 3 of our 4 games. SURELY nobody will argue this point.

I DO think Missouri is a much better team than many think, and we came back in a classic way, so I am willing to give a pass on that one. Nichols and Mississippi though were ugly.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:05 pm to
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We're having to play a ton of Freshmen and Sophomores this year because we have no depth.


I got to thinking about this and got curious. I really agree with what you are saying. To me, it's obvious that this plays into it.

I did a little research and saw this article:

LINK

One of the things it said, was in 2011, LSU had 9 freshmen get significant playtime. Enough to letter. Remember the significance of 2011, for LSU? That was one of their best teams. One of the all time greatest defense. Boggles the mind that they played 9 freshmen enough to letter.

Don't gt me wrong....I do agree with your point, Sumter. Maybe not when you say most of them would be red shirting....but certainly some would.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6998 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 1:37 pm to
K9 is just too dumb to comprehend how adversely we are affected by Richt's disastrous 2013 recruiting class.

Firing Richt was the correct move.

Was replacing Richt with a rookie head coach the right move? Well, that question hasn't been answered yet.

Most Dawg fans longing for coaching change were hoping for a up-and-coming young head coach who had already shown promise.
This post was edited on 9/25/16 at 1:51 pm
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 2:01 pm to
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disastrous 2013 recruiting class.



I think that plays a bigger role than we think. You can go back and forth about how much talent we do or don't have, but I see a team that is craving some player-leaders, and the 2013 class would have been most likely to provide that this year.

For the record, I don't really blame richt for how that class turned out. The universe aligned to throw a crazy number of busts, flame outs, and discipline problems in one class.

Good news is after this year it has passed. I'm hoping Kirby gets it going and we see a team that improves this year and comes out looking dangerous next season. Bottom line, if he doesn't have it looking good by next season, his days may be numbered in Athens.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7419 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 2:10 pm to
Terry Godwin has barely played like a 3 star, much less have the impact of a 5 star recruit.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23983 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 2:11 pm to
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K9 is just too dumb to comprehend how adversely we are affected by Richt's disastrous 2013 recruiting class.



And you're Kirby blinders are super-glued to your thick skull so hard that you can't even imagine questioning a single aspect of the job Kirby has done

"He worked under Saban so he knows how to build a program!"

Is all you can see right now.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 2:13 pm to
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K9 is just too dumb to comprehend how adversely we are affected by Richt's disastrous 2013 recruiting class.


The class itself was not disastrous. It was all the attrition. You say that Richt recruited low character guys, but so was all the other teams around us. They were recruited by Alabama, Auburn, Florida, South Carolina, Tennessee....it was just one of those things.

I mean, look back at the class where Alabama recruited 4-5 4* and 5* running backs. Only Derrick Henry did anything for them. Kamara went to Tennessee, Tennpenny was killed, gosh, I can't remember all of them. They were loaded. It was a good class....but it just didn't turn out well for them. same with our 2013 class, which might be what you were meaning.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27293 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 2:22 pm to
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Good news is after this year it has passed. I'm hoping Kirby gets it going and we see a team that improves this year and comes out looking dangerous next season. Bottom line, if he doesn't have it looking good by next season, his days may be numbered in Athens.


After the '17 class is signed it would give us 4 straight top 10 classes (barring a total disaster this year)...something CMR never had.Our roster is going to be littered with 4 and 5 stars especially on defense.I'm expecting a huge turnaround on that side of the ball .If it turns ugly in any way we need to take hard look at who we hired.I don't want a Muschamp/UF situation where he stuck around a year too long.We'll also show the door to McGarity as well.This hire is ALL on him.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6998 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 3:09 pm to
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And you're Kirby blinders are super-glued to your thick skull so hard that you can't even imagine questioning a single aspect of the job Kirby has done


Are you too dumb to read? I never defended Kirby at all.

Are you too dumb to write? It's "your" not "you're." At least you got that word right the second time you used it.

Maybe your just still drunk and off your game, At least, I hope so.
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 3:13 pm to
I just see alot of personnel issues right now especially at Oline. The current interior linemen are sub 300 pounders built more for pulling.

Pittman is bringing in his guys at the 330 range so there's that.

WR corps is actually worse than what they were saying preseason. Run game was suppose to be a pillar of the offense but now a weakness. Just an overall mess.

The entire 2 deep for offense and defense consist of only 6 seniors.

Lambert - backup/grad transfer
Catalina - starter/grad transfer
Kublanow - starter
Pyke - starter
Mauger - backup/starter
Amaechi - backup/Juco

This season should be used as primer to develop all the young players and create depth.

The key for next season is an instant impact receiver. Don't care how tall or small he is, from the 2017 class, Juco ranks, trans., etc. Eason desperately needs his no. 1 target.

Pass rush was suppose to be a strength but is arguably worse than the Falcons. That's been a huge problem on defense. Run defense is coming around I guess. Who's been happy with Rocker since his hire? Not me.

Expectations now should be marked improvement by the final quarter of the season while still alive for the division title.
This post was edited on 9/25/16 at 3:19 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 3:19 pm to
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The entire 2 deep for offense and defense consist of only 6 seniors.

Lambert - backup/grad transfer
Catalina - backup/grad transfer
Kublanow - starter
Pyke - starter
Mauger - backup/starter
Amaechi - backup/Juco


Is this correct? Of the top 44 players only six are seniors? If so, that is incredible! We should have a LOT of experience and depth next year if this is true. Especially if you factor in that one of those is Lambert. We will certainly have an upgrade to back up Eason next year. With all the young OL we have brought in last year and will this year, we should show some improvement there as the year moves along.
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 3:24 pm to
Forgot Maurice Smith, yet another grad transfer.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 3:32 pm to
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The class itself was not disastrous. It was all the attrition.


Well that is one reason is was disastrous. Look we all know you loved Mark. The 2013 class is really hurting this team right now. This team IS devoid of good players in critical areas, or freshman who may or may not be so talented. Ole Miss has a lot more talent than we do. Not saying Kirbs is perfect, he is learning on the job but I think that anything he does this year definitely has to be pretty much 50% put on Richt for leaving this mess.
This post was edited on 9/25/16 at 3:36 pm
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