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re: Got some elbow room on the Smart Cart...
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:07 am to Hobnailboot
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:07 am to Hobnailboot
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You just named literally every good player
And Briscoe was one of them
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:25 am to FaCubeItches
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Notre Dame is at least competitive.
Have you watched them play this year? Texas, Michigan State and Duke beat them. Their only win is against Nevada!
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:25 am to Cobb Dawg
My line of thinking is this - recall the agonizing 2010 season. 6-7. Losing to UCF in the Liberty Bowl. Redshirt freshman Aaron Murray's Batman gloves.
If that's the low point of this millenium, I think Kirby is in a better position with the team he inherited, and a sprinkling of his own players than Richt was, a decade into a program of his own design.
Y'all need to chill the frick out.
If that's the low point of this millenium, I think Kirby is in a better position with the team he inherited, and a sprinkling of his own players than Richt was, a decade into a program of his own design.
Y'all need to chill the frick out.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 7:36 am to K9
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I dont think OM has that much more talent than u
They were up 24-3 on the mighty saban, they totaled 43 points for the game. Bama beat us last year 38-10 and it wasn't that close. Ole Miss has ALOT more talent than us. Did you see how big their receivers were? Did you see how they can CATCH the ball?
Stop living in your dream world
Posted on 9/26/16 at 7:50 am to Walkthedawg
If you look at recruiting the last few years, UGA and Ole Miss have recruited very similar receivers from an average height standpoint. Both have a lot of 4 stars that are 6'2". UGA has a 5 star that is 6' and a 4 star that is 5'8".
Amazing how that many 4 stars of equal height are busts at UGA vs like anywhere else....
Amazing how that many 4 stars of equal height are busts at UGA vs like anywhere else....
Posted on 9/26/16 at 8:08 am to Peter Buck
Average Height of UGA receivers over the past 3 classes: 6'1"
Average height of Ole Miss receivers over the past 3 classes: 6'3"
-Honestly, not a whole lot of difference. But here's what IS the difference...
Average National Recruiting ranking of WRs the past 3 years:
UGA- 303
Ole Miss- 155
Ole Miss has recruited athletes at the position and it shows. The guys can get separation, can jump, and can make circus catches. Our receivers struggle with all 3. Mitchell was our dynamic receiver on the outside last year and we have no one to replace him.
Average height of Ole Miss receivers over the past 3 classes: 6'3"
-Honestly, not a whole lot of difference. But here's what IS the difference...
Average National Recruiting ranking of WRs the past 3 years:
UGA- 303
Ole Miss- 155
Ole Miss has recruited athletes at the position and it shows. The guys can get separation, can jump, and can make circus catches. Our receivers struggle with all 3. Mitchell was our dynamic receiver on the outside last year and we have no one to replace him.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:28 am to crispyUGA
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. Mitchell was our dynamic receiver on the outside last year and we have no one to replace him.
That's why I think we need to shake the WR recruiting Etch-a-sketch and go after every 5* receiver known to man. We need the Mike Evans/DGB-kinda guys who go up to low Earth orbit, slap satellites out of the way, then come down with the ball. We haven't had someone like that since AJ Green. Mitchell was supposed to be that guy, but the injury bug kept him from reaching his potential.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:46 am to crispyUGA
I'm with you crispy....its way to early and I had this game as a loss when the schedule came out anyway...they are better than us...CMR would have lost too
all this discontentment...its a rebuilding year...Bama was still shitty in 07' when CNS first got there....im not saying the cupboard is bare...but its not set up for a run at a Natty...that's just fact...give the man time to get HIS system in place...let Eason work through this true freshman season...and go get some guys in the offseason that can contribute early...and its a recipe for success..imho...CKS was a good hire...he wouldn't have been on the top 5 list for every coaching job available for the past 5 years if he wasn't a good coach...
all this discontentment...its a rebuilding year...Bama was still shitty in 07' when CNS first got there....im not saying the cupboard is bare...but its not set up for a run at a Natty...that's just fact...give the man time to get HIS system in place...let Eason work through this true freshman season...and go get some guys in the offseason that can contribute early...and its a recipe for success..imho...CKS was a good hire...he wouldn't have been on the top 5 list for every coaching job available for the past 5 years if he wasn't a good coach...
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:54 am to crispyUGA
This.
People can jump off the ship if they want too, but this was always going to be a rebuilding year.
Honestly what did you guys expect in the first year of a new head coach?
Did some of y'all really think we would win the East and make a run at the playoffs?
Some people on here are ridiculous, just saying.
People can jump off the ship if they want too, but this was always going to be a rebuilding year.
Honestly what did you guys expect in the first year of a new head coach?
Did some of y'all really think we would win the East and make a run at the playoffs?
Some people on here are ridiculous, just saying.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 9:58 am to Bulldawg2010
It's really kinda sad. I get it with constant bellyaching when CMR would choke on an obvious one, but as the HC gig goes, Kirby's a true freshman, too. Everyone likes to point out how Bama went, Saban's first year, but that's not really accurate, since he had been a HC at multiple schools before landing in Tuscaloosa. His MSU time is really more of an indicator of where Kirby's coming from.
Yes, there's a degree of being a little spoiled when you spend 9 years under a program that stockpiles national championships, but they didn't get there overnight, and neither will we.
Yes, there's a degree of being a little spoiled when you spend 9 years under a program that stockpiles national championships, but they didn't get there overnight, and neither will we.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:01 am to crispyUGA
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Got some elbow room on the Smart Cart...
Squeeze me in. With good recruiting and Eason getting proper QB coaching, I am hopeful. Our recruiting ad should read something like: Star/future NFL QB needs quality OL and talented receivers......
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:11 am to crispyUGA
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Average Height of UGA receivers over the past 3 classes: 6'1"
Average height of Ole Miss receivers over the past 3 classes: 6'3"
-Honestly, not a whole lot of difference. But here's what IS the difference...
Average National Recruiting ranking of WRs the past 3 years:
UGA- 303
Ole Miss- 155
Ole Miss has recruited athletes at the position and it shows. The guys can get separation, can jump, and can make circus catches. Our receivers struggle with all 3. Mitchell was our dynamic receiver on the outside last year and we have no one to replace him.
The height is skewed because we have a 4 star 5'8" and a 5 Star 6' guy. Other than that they were 6'2 to 6'5 unless you didn't count Woerner.
Curious to see the data you used. What I saw didn't show what you are getting. Not doubting, just does not match what I saw.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:13 am to VoxDawg
It is sad.
Especially when I feel like some people on this board never got on with the Smart hire to begin with.
I feel like there are a few poster here who got so upset that Richt was fired, that they want Smart to fail just so they can say we went from Richt who averaged 9 wins a year to Smart.
Anyone with any football knowledge at all knew that this was going to be a rebuilding year. I will admit that it is concerning to see a team get blown out, but when you have as many holes as we do. On top of that you have a freshman qb and a first year head coach, loses like these are going to happen.
I've said it in other threads and I'll say it again, when year 3 comes around and we get blown out and look completely uncompetitive then we can start calling for Smarts head.
Until then, some of you need to realize that we have a bad line on both sides of the ball, a true freshman qb, undersized receivers, and a head coach that is still learning how to be a head coach.
There will be growing pains.
Especially when I feel like some people on this board never got on with the Smart hire to begin with.
I feel like there are a few poster here who got so upset that Richt was fired, that they want Smart to fail just so they can say we went from Richt who averaged 9 wins a year to Smart.
Anyone with any football knowledge at all knew that this was going to be a rebuilding year. I will admit that it is concerning to see a team get blown out, but when you have as many holes as we do. On top of that you have a freshman qb and a first year head coach, loses like these are going to happen.
I've said it in other threads and I'll say it again, when year 3 comes around and we get blown out and look completely uncompetitive then we can start calling for Smarts head.
Until then, some of you need to realize that we have a bad line on both sides of the ball, a true freshman qb, undersized receivers, and a head coach that is still learning how to be a head coach.
There will be growing pains.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 10:58 am to crispyUGA
Half of this board has lost it's fricking mind IMO....
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:07 am to Walkthedawg
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They were up 24-3 on the mighty saban, they totaled 43 points for the game. Bama beat us last year 38-10 and it wasn't that close. Ole Miss has ALOT more talent than us. Did you see how big their receivers were? Did you see how they can CATCH the ball?
Stop living in your dream world
Curios about something. Does Nicholls have almost the same amount of talent as us? I mean, the score was close.
While recruiting rankings are not flawless ways to gauge talent is is pretty accurate. And we have out recruited Ole Miss by a good bit most years.
Could coaching have something to do with it? Attitude and approach to the game? Coaching?
It's also very easy to say they had Alabama in the first half and forget what happened in the second. Add to that, that Ole Miss got beat by Florida State who got completely whitewashed by Louisville who we handled easily a couple of years ago. See why you can't make comparisons from games played last year or the year before?
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:17 am to Bulldawg2010
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People can jump off the ship if they want too,
Nobody is jumping off the ship.
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but this was always going to be a rebuilding year.
Really? Why?
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Honestly what did you guys expect in the first year of a new head coach?
We were told thta a mediocre coach could win 10 games at UGA while playing in the SEC East. That it was easy.
Honestly? I think a lot of this backlash is coming from the way many on this board treated Richt and his records. They were down played and by the Richt haters. Nobody wanted to give him any credit. He was crucified when Georgia Southern played us tight last year, and when Alabama beat the crap out of us. We were assured that Kirby Smart would never put an unprepared team on the field and we would never get blown out with a Kirby Smart coached team
Ok. Then put the same criteria on Smart.
For the record....I like Kirby Smart and i agree with a LOT of what you guys are saying. You give Smart a few years. Let him get his players in and his system untracked. So far, I think he's done a pretty good job with his in game decisions, with only one or two mistakes......you know. The stuff we all make?
I don't agree with the backlash, but I fully understand it after what most on this board put the Richt supporters through last year.
Crap. Now many are trying to pin the struggles of this years team on Mark Richt. That is what has me aggravated. You all sound like Obama in his first 6 years. Everything was Bush's fault. now everything is Richt's fault. never mind that he won 10 games almost every year while here.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:24 am to Bulldawg2010
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Richt who averaged 9 wins a year
It was closer to 10 than it was to 9, but frame the narrative any way you want to.
And for the record, Nobody was a bigger supporter of Mark Richt than me. But I am all on board the Kirby Smart train. I think he will be a great hire and support him.
There is a backlash because there are still so many people on here trying to blame Richt and excuse a bad coaching performance by Smart. I think it is being made worse by the Nicholls game, honestly, though. The team is looking listless and lackluster.
Smart said we could expect a better effort this week, and I think we will get exactly what he said. I don't expect a win, but a better effort is all any of us should expect. Week to week improvement.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:38 am to Peter Buck
I didn't count Woerner because most all of the analysts said he'd be a TE and that is what he's become.
I used 247 composite rankings and for Javon Wims (#11 JUCO) and Rico Johnson (#5 Prep) both had rankings that would put them #300+ if they had been ranked along side the high schoolers, so I ranked them in roughly that range. There is no doubt in watching our two teams, though, that Ole Miss had more athleticism at the WR position.
I used 247 composite rankings and for Javon Wims (#11 JUCO) and Rico Johnson (#5 Prep) both had rankings that would put them #300+ if they had been ranked along side the high schoolers, so I ranked them in roughly that range. There is no doubt in watching our two teams, though, that Ole Miss had more athleticism at the WR position.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:48 am to dallasga6
We are 3-1 with an 18 year old true freshman QB, we are playing tons of freshmen and sophomores. We have almost an entirely new coaching staff. I figured we would be at least a 3-4 loss team this year. Not saying we will beat Tennessee but its possible. If we do we will be 4-1 and in the driver seat in the east. While people bring up Nicholls, #8 Wisconsin beat Georgia St. by 6. They then proceeded to beat the daylights out of Michigan St.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:52 am to crispyUGA
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Average National Recruiting ranking of WRs the past 3 years:
UGA- 303
Ole Miss- 155
No doubt they have recruited WR's better than us. So has LSU, Alabama and Tennessee. (Probably more, but I feel fairly confident in those!)
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