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re: Georgia eyeing more high-profile football opponents

Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:26 pm to
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I submit we dump Ga Tech and line up a quality OOC opponent yearly.


Jesus Christ this thread devolved to a bunch of dog shite
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:31 pm to
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Bull shite. You'd be hard as a diamond in an ice storm thinking about that natty. don't say otherwise. You'd be all over it.

THANK YOU!!


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I am for these games because ultimately UGA will blow it regardless of who we play but what you said it pure bull shite. Just like everyone else who pretends to hang their hat on how they are proud of drug testing program and reluctance to accept troubled transfers. If we did that shite and UGA won we'd all be defending it till our dying breath.


This I can agree with. I still say if we're serious about a natty then we need to follow the easier path.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:42 pm to
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I said nothing about the SEC schools

I know but those are who we compete against in our conference every year. If we want to win our conference and stay healthy we don't need to play a tougher OOC than them.

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But Southern Cal plays ND home and home yearly, they have played top Big 10 and Big 12 teams, and seldom play any team as weak as the OOC games McGarity is lining up for Georgia.


They play ND who is usually the most overrated team in the country year in and year out. ND is a brand name but they are weak as baby farts.

But let's look at their normal OOC

15: ND, Ark St, and Idaho
14: Fresno, BC, and ND
13: Hawaii, BC, and ND
12: Hawaii, Syracuse and ND
11: Minnesota, Syracuse and ND
10: Hawaii, Minnesota, Virginia, and ND

I would say playing Boise and GT and Clemson and GT were heads and shoulders above what they've played.

If you're saying these are the types of teams you want to play then sign me up. I don't want to play top 10 teams every year only to either get beat or beaten up.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:46 pm to
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if we're serious about a natty then we need to follow the easier path


Honest question, are we serious about a natty? Because it doesn't look like it to me. We could play Vanderbilt 12 times, and we could still bank on a couple of losses. May as well at least play some entertaining games.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:49 pm to
Before this offseason I would have said no. But it looks like we're headed in the right direction.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 8:58 pm to
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if we did that shite and won we'd be defending it til our dying breath


You mean a program like UF under Meyer? Multiple felonies,failed drug test and of a future convicted murderer on our roster?

Yea man ,we'd be all about bragging about those great teams and defending guys like Chris Rainey,Percy Harvin and A. Hernandez
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Leghumper
Lawrenceville, Georgia
Member since Dec 2003
2330 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:39 pm to
Athletics director Greg McGarity is the a-hole that dressed us up like Power Rangers..I don't trust anything this guy says or does except to believe it's for the makings of ridiculous amounts of money so they can give millions away to the school. I don't care about national championships as much as I care about winning the SEC and playing a bunch of OOC games does not get us to that goal. I would rather see us play specific OOC teams that mimic styles of play of the teams we have to beat to win the SEC. Maybe throw Bobo a bone here and there and for god's sake, stop playing Georgia fricking Southern.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18557 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:53 pm to
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You'd be hard as a diamond in an ice storm


No I wouldn't.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42530 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:56 pm to
I'm always for playing a tough schedule with great OOC opponents, but playing a tougher team could have HUGE benefits, but also HUGE consequences. If you think it's one without the other you're mistaken. Baylor absolutely didn't make the CFB playoff this year because of their OOC schedule, and I really think the committee values that sort of thing.

I don't know if we would have gotten in this year if we would have won the SEC with two losses, but I know it would have helped a crap ton beating Clemson instead of the crap OOC we have this year.

At the same time, your % of losing to a good team instead of Charleston Southene is much greater, and adding a needless loss to the resume is brutal when you have to go through the SEC schedule. I think we'll see a lot more this year how the committee rewards scheduling, and I think we should see who they reward and try to mimic that.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:43 am to
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No I wouldn't.


You're lying to yourself man
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:48 am to
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its fricking about proving yourself. And I want people around the program who want to go up against the best, anytime, anywhere. If we lose and we play to our talent level, I'll take that over a win over a lesser team.


then you're a fricking idiot because what you and anyone who claims to even be a casual UGA fan should actually want is a national title. And your way lessens our chances of doing so.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:53 am to
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THIS YEAR for example.Let's say we beat UFAG and still lose to GT but beat Bama in the SECCG...don't you think a OOC victory over Clemson on national TV looks a he'll of a lot better than an OOC victory over Charleston Southern??


Good Lord how many hypotheticals are you gonna throw in there? While we're making up game results, what would have happened had we lost to clemson? Also in your scenario we'd be 11-2 SEC champs with losses to SC and GT. 1-3 in the playoffs would be etched in stone at oregon, fsu, and OSU. Whose to say that we would have jumped 1 loss baylor/tcu anyway? We would have 1 really bad loss and 1 average loss, while the others would have only 1 good loss. Doesn't really matter.

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Why even schedule GT?????It would be an easier route to a NC.right????


I guess you think this is clever?

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I get what you're trying to say but the selection has stated that SOS will be factor in their selection process


You know what's a far bigger factor than SOS? Wins.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:57 am to
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I would rather walk out of Sanford with a W against a nobody than a loss against Ohio State. Would you not?


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No


Ok so just for the record...you are admitting in front of everyone you would choose georgia LOSING a football game over winning one, simply so you can tell your friends or little grandkids or whoever that you got to see a team we rarely play live in person? I question what you've been doing since 1971 because you don't sound like much of a fan at all.

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I won't drive 180 miles to see Georgia play Charleston Southern or other such teams


ok? who cares? It's not about what alacowboy is willing to drive or who you would prefer to see us play, it's about our football team playing for a national title. That's all that matters. And us playing crappy teams in the three games of 12 that we're allowed to helps us do that.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:02 am to
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We can't win (or even get into) the NC game even with our pissy OOC schedule


We can't get to the NC game because we can't make it through our SEC schedule successfully enough. It's been over 30 years since we've won every SEC game. The times we've won the SEC east recently, thereby playing for an SEC title:

02- won title, didn't play in NCG bc of SEC reg season loss
03- lost title, even if we had won, wouldn't have played for NCG bc of 2 SEC reg season losses
05- won SEC title, lost 2 SEC reg season games
11- lost title, even if we had won we wouldn't have played for NCG bc of an SEC reg season loss and an OOC loss (in one of the hard games you desperately desire)
12- lost title, if we had won we WOULD have played for NCG...guess who our OOC was that year? Buffalo, FAU, Ga Southern, Tech. Had we taken care of busines in the SEC, our OOC would have been 100% irrelevant.


This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 8:12 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:05 am to
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Also, if I were a florida fan, I'd be very embarrassed about their OOC schedule under Meyer among other things.


Whenever we do win a national title, I hope to God that our OOC is pitiful so that you won't take any joy in it.

You think real life is like an internet message board? You think people talk to UF fans in person and are like "man, yall don't play anyone OOC. You must be so embarrassed!" while the UF fans just say "uhh dude, we won 2 national titles in 3 years idiot"

And I would give anything to be able to say the same. I don't care who our OOC is. I don't care who we sign or what we cover up. All that shite is forgotten 3 years later. Your name by the year for "national champions" stays permanent.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:07 am to
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We could play Vanderbilt 12 times, and we could still bank on a couple of losses. May as well at least play some entertaining games.


In your first sentence, you basically say that we are always due for a few losses, period, no matter what. If you really believe that, why wouldn't you want us to at least give ourselves the best chance we have to win as much as possible?

If you've already resigned us to going roughly 10-2 every year at best, why not make it as easy as possible to get there instead of having to fight and claw our way to a possible 8-4?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:09 am to
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You mean a program like UF under Meyer? Multiple felonies,failed drug test and of a future convicted murderer on our roster?

Yea man ,we'd be all about bragging about those great teams and defending guys like Chris Rainey,Percy Harvin and A. Hernandez


Damn right we would be. Do you see any florida fans wearing hernandez jerseys? No, you don't. BEcause they know he was a criminal and they are likely ashamed he is tied to the U of F. But you know what? They can take their families to the athletic center and look at the trophy case and see and 06 and 08 national titles. harvin, hernandez, meyer, etc...it's not just a big picture of all their faces. They're irrelevant, they're people that move on after a few years. The national title is permanent and will always be there for people to remember.


You're fricking right I would brag about a title even if we had a team full of cams and hernandez's. Why would I not?
Posted by JacketFan77
Tiger, GA
Member since Nov 2012
2554 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:44 am to
Was about to say, haven't y'all already been doing this with some interesting kick-off match ups (Boise) and home and home match-ups (Clemson)

We've had a similar discussion about Tech. We have a built-in quality OOC every year. We now have ND in a five-year cycle and we would like to add something like a Kick-off Classic game (hopefully, Tennessee in 2017). But, beyond that, it's suicide - just look at what we did with our run as an independent, or look to Notre Dame. That's about the only scenario something like this works in and it's a nightmare. You already have a quality schedule by being a member of a P5 conference - easily the strongest of the last decade. You guys have a pretty decent schedule.

Bama, on the other hand ...

This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 9:45 am
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7901 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:46 am to
I just would rather watch a good matchup, period. Personal preference, that's all.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:52 am to
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I just would rather watch a good matchup, period. Personal preference, that's all.


Yeah I get that. Sure it's more "fun" to go to a new city or see the hype for a big matchup. But personal preference from fan to fan doens't matter as it relates to UGA winning titles, which should be the bottom line goal for any fan. I just think that logically and rationally it makes more sense to go into a season with as many automatic wins as possible.
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