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re: Georgia eyeing more high-profile football opponents
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:58 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:58 am to WG_Dawg
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Ok so just for the record...you are admitting in front of everyone you would choose georgia LOSING a football game over winning one, simply so you can tell your friends or little grandkids or whoever that you got to see a team we rarely play live in person? I question what you've been doing since 1971 because you don't sound like much of a fan at all.
Actually I am stating I would come see Georgia play a top 20 team rather than a bottom 20 team. If Georgia played, for example, USCw and lost by 3, they would still get more points in the new playoff format than beating Buffalo by 20.
I would obviously rather see them beat USCw by 20 than lose to them. But I would come see them. Four Boys and Girls Club members got to see the Buffalo game on my tickets.
As for what I've been doing since 1971? Attending 4 or 5 games a year, donating to the university, being active in the Bulldog Club and the Alumni Association, endowing a scholarship to the university in memory of my deceased son-in-law, and other things.
Sorry if you don't like my opinion, but I am just as entitled to have one as you are.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 10:00 am
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:05 am to AlaCowboy
He also recently toured all of the historic sites in Boston!
Nice response.
The fact remains that the more quality teams you play, the more injury and exhaustion you experience, which damages your chances in the playoffs. As an SEC team, UGA has plenty of schedule strength every year. No need to make the schedule harder for little benefit and a huge downside.
Look at the little teams that stay in the mix til the end of the year because they are undefeated. Wins over non-quality count more than losses to quality.
Nice response.
The fact remains that the more quality teams you play, the more injury and exhaustion you experience, which damages your chances in the playoffs. As an SEC team, UGA has plenty of schedule strength every year. No need to make the schedule harder for little benefit and a huge downside.
Look at the little teams that stay in the mix til the end of the year because they are undefeated. Wins over non-quality count more than losses to quality.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:09 am to AlaCowboy
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If Georgia played, for example, USCw and lost by 3, they would still get more points in the new playoff format than beating Buffalo by 20.
Ummm, no they wouldn't. You act like SOS is the very first metric people look at, when obviously the first thing looked at is record/wins. We would rather be 11-1 with a win over buffalo than 10-2 and a close loss to SC. That isn't even debatable.
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Sorry if you don't like my opinion, but I am just as entitled to have one as you are.
Of course you are, I never claimed that people aren't allowed to express their thoughts and feelings. I'm just saying you're wrong.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:09 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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I would say playing Boise and GT and Clemson and GT were heads and shoulders above what they've played.
If you're saying these are the types of teams you want to play then sign me up. I don't want to play top 10 teams every year only to either get beat or beaten up.
Agreed. Playing Syracuse or Virginia, or even Minnesota or Indiana, would gain Georgia more respect with the playoff committee than Charleston Southern or NE Louisiana.
We don't have to play and beat top 10 teams every year, but at least play teams that have a pulse.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:13 am to AlaCowboy
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If Georgia played, for example, USCw and lost by 3, they would still get more points in the new playoff format than beating Buffalo by 20.
That thought is what got people so excited about the playoff committee. Unfortunately, we saw last year that SOS only came into play when they were splitting hairs between the contenders for the #4 spot. If we beat a team like Buffalo, it keeps us ahead of those "splitting hairs" situations.
I take the win over Buffalo over a loss 10 times out of 10.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:19 am to Broncothor
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As an SEC team, UGA has plenty of schedule strength every year. No need to make the schedule harder for little benefit and a huge downside.
This is pretty much it in a nutshell. Every year, UGA will face the following (throwing in SECCG since we're talking making the playoffs):
-8 SEC games. You have to assume that at the very least, 3 of those teams will be ranked. Often times it may be closer to the 4 or 5 range
-GT, who typically borders being ranked between 25 and 15ish
-the SECCG, against a team that will more often than not be in the top 10, and typically be ranked around 5th
That right there is difficult enough as it is. We have 3 more games to fill out the schedule, and should use those to our advantage. Taking away 1 of those 3 and adding in yet another team ranked around 15th or so, and going on the road in one of the matchups (assuming a home/home), is simply not an advantage.
What kills me is that everyone on this board laments the fact that we're so behind the curve as it relates to other programs winning titles. We talk about all the things mcgarity does to hold us back, and wonder why we can't be like everyone else and "get serious" about winning it all. Yet then we turn around and want to make things harder on ourselves, all to satisfy some personal, selfish desire to see us go across the country and play a big name team that we don't' typically get to. Doesn't make sense.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 10:21 am
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:04 am to JacketFan77
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JacketFan77
Yep, UGA, UF, USCe, and UK are pretty much set for OOCs because we have a permanent opponent. The others get the benefit of scheduling Sister Mary of the Blind for games and sprinkle in one brand name OOC.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:07 am to AlaCowboy
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Agreed. Playing Syracuse or Virginia, or even Minnesota or Indiana, would gain Georgia more respect with the playoff committee than Charleston Southern or NE Louisiana.
We don't have to play and beat top 10 teams every year, but at least play teams that have a pulse.
That works for me. The problem is people start throwing out top 10 teams. I wouldn't mind bringing P5 teams but it needs to still be a reasonable win.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:15 am to WG_Dawg
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Of course you are, I never claimed that people aren't allowed to express their thoughts and feelings. I'm just saying you're wrong.
I'm not necessarily wrong, just as you are not necessarily right. We just have different opinions on the subject.
I went to the Arizona State games a few years ago. Cost about $5,000 for the four of us, but it was a fantastic time. I don't spend $100.00 for gas to drive to Athens for the garbage games to see an automatic win because the games aren't fun to watch. It's funny that when McGarity first came back he started making our OOC schedule look like UF Lite. Cancelled Oregon, cancelled Ohio State, dropped discussions with Texas and UCLA, and everyone thought that was just terrific.
Check rankings for the last 20 years and see how little a win over Charleston Southern moved us up. A few years back Georgia opened as preseason #1, beat Ga. Southern by 24, and dropped to #3. The next week we beat Central Michigan by 40 and dropped again. That's how little respect those games gave us in the polls.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:52 am to WG_Dawg
WG, I get what you're saying for the most part, I really do because if we win the SEC with one loss we should be in the playoff. That being said, there are going to be some years where it is a huge advantage to win a big OOC game and it will absolutely help playoff seeding. For example, in 2007 if there was a playoff beating OSU instead of a no namer would definitely have given us a better chance.
I do probably agree with you that the majority of the time, it wouldn't help, but don't act like there are zero advantages to playing those types of teams.
I do probably agree with you that the majority of the time, it wouldn't help, but don't act like there are zero advantages to playing those types of teams.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:59 am to WG_Dawg
From reading the article it appears this is a done deal and I cant see any reason "ears" would elaborate on like he did if it wasn't already signed sealed and delivered.
Alabama started it's rise back up beating Clemson in the Chic filet bowl and not being a pussy about taking on the bully in the school yard why can't we?
I wish more UGA fans had that same attitude of wanting to play anybody at any time / any place...
A lot of estrogen in this thread...
Alabama started it's rise back up beating Clemson in the Chic filet bowl and not being a pussy about taking on the bully in the school yard why can't we?
I wish more UGA fans had that same attitude of wanting to play anybody at any time / any place...
A lot of estrogen in this thread...
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:02 pm to AlaCowboy
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I went to the Arizona State games a few years ago. Cost about $5,000 for the four of us, but it was a fantastic time.
I went too. Also went to boulder and stillwater. Those were nice memories to have, yet we went 1-2 in those cross country trips. Our team got back to athens after the ASU game at about 6am on Sunday. There's no way that's a positive when it comes to prepping for the next game, which in that instance happened to be alabama.
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Check rankings for the last 20 years and see how little a win over Charleston Southern moved us up
I never claimed that a win over a tomato can would be some great resume booster. What I've claimed is that the potential for negative (dropping multiple spots and giving you essentially ZERO breathing room the rest of the year by losing to a good team) outweighs the potential for positive (moving up a few spots). Like I've said the whole time- take care of business in the SEC, beat tech, win the SEC, and you're golden. That should be our #1 priority, not giving the fans another fall vacation.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:06 pm to BarberitosDawg
quote:Most years our OOC is harder than any other SEC team.
Alabama started it's rise back up beating Clemson in the Chic filet bowl and not being a pussy about taking on the bully in the school yard why can't we?
I wish more UGA fans had that same attitude of wanting to play anybody at any time / any place...
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A lot of estrogen in this thread...
More like several people who aren't smart enough to understand the argument and the differences between having a permanent OOP and the luxury to schedule top P5 teams and not have to worry about it.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:09 pm to Dawgsontop34
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don't act like there are zero advantages to playing those types of teams.
I never said there were zero. But the negatives faaaaaar outweigh the positives. When you play a scrub, it's a 100% win and there's a good chance you can give your starters a break in the second half. Those are both very good things. If you play a tough opponent, the chances hover around 50/50 of winning, plus it's likely going to be a battle for 60 minutes and beat your guys up. In the last 25 years, we've had maybe 2 or 3 teams that were actually national title level teams. We missed out all of those years by not taking care of business in the SEC..what we did OOC was irrelevant.
Our only goal should be being 4th or better after CCG weekend. We can likely afford a loss along the way, assuming we win the SEC. 12-1 and SEC champs is almost a sure bet to be in the top 4. We haven't gone undefeated in the SEC in over 30 years so it's a safe assumption that the loss will be in conference. There really just isn't a need to risk adding another potential loss OOC. It's not worth the tradeoff.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:12 pm to BarberitosDawg
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Alabama started it's rise back up beating Clemson in the Chic filet bowl and not being a pussy about taking on the bully in the school yard why can't we?
-alabama went 12-0 before losing the SEC title game, they were on teh verge of elite that year anyway regardless of who they'd play OOC
-clemson went 7-6 that year, it was only a good opponent in name alone
-they traveled 4 hours, not across the country like some of these matchups ADGM wants
-they had the best coach in america and one of the 10 best that's ever been in the profession. They can take a few more liberties with who they schedule
-they don't have a built in OOC game every year like we do.
If we didnt' play tech every year, this would be an entirely different issue. Teams like alabama, auburn, lsu, etc don't have a guarnateed OOC game to play every year like UGA/sc/uf do.
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I wish more UGA fans had that same attitude of wanting to play anybody at any time / any place..
I wish more UGA fans had a "do everything in our power to make our trip to the national title game as feasible as possible" attitude.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:19 pm to WG_Dawg
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I wish more UGA fans had a "do everything in our power to make our trip to the national title game as feasible as possible" attitude.
Alabama has been there more than anybody and they did so by not ducking solid competition. As fans we have less than zero input on who is scheduled but, this "fear mongering" is unmanly.
I blame Michael Adams for ruining an entire generation of Dawg fans.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:23 pm to BarberitosDawg
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Alabama has been there more than anybody and they did so by not ducking solid competition
sigh...once again...they have an extra game to play around with by not having a guarnateed in state OOC game every year. They also have been without question THE elite team in america the last 7 years and have had the #1 recruiting class something like 5 of the last 7 years. If all of that described us, then sure I'd say bring it on. But it doesn't describe us, not even close.
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this "fear mongering" is unmanly
I'm not concerned with how "manly" i look to internet strangers based on my preferences for our team's football schedule. There's a difference between being scared and being logical. If you were in the gym training ot be a fighter and were getting pretty good at it, and really confident in your abilities, but were 5'5" and 120 pounds, would you want to fight someone who is 6'4" and 230 pounds? Odds are no. It doesn't mean you're scared, it just means the potential outcomes aren't slanted in your favor. Us scheduling hard, big time teams (in addition to 8 sec games, tech, and the SECCG) is not a favorable situation for us.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:35 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:48 pm to BarberitosDawg
I'm not clicking your link but I'll assume it's something eye roll worthy.
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