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re: Gary Danielson says Eason wasn't the issue....
Posted on 8/25/17 at 5:58 pm to meansonny
Posted on 8/25/17 at 5:58 pm to meansonny
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We can agree to disagree.
Not really. I've given you stats that corresponds directly with my arguments and you've offered nothing to refute it.
So it makes NO DIFFERENCE at all if a team rushes for 25 yards or 300 but if they don't have any rushing TDs it's the exact same thing?
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 6:06 pm
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 8:08 pm to deeprig9
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That's a you problem.
The issue for many of the folks I disagree with on this board stems from an emotional attachment to a specific entity:
-For Peter, he cant bring himself to criticize the OL for their mistakes.
- For RD, he loves Richt too much, and cant bring himself to admit Richt let things slip.
- For you, you seem to have a soft area for Peter, and refuse to call him out when he is wrong.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:41 pm to djsdawg
Are you sure about that?
Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:57 pm to Sandwich
Of course he wasn't. The kid was a freshman playing with a new OC and several missing pieces.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:32 pm to RD Dawg
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Not really. I've given you stats that corresponds directly with my arguments and you've offered nothing to refute it.
1) In September, we ran for 196.8 ypg and 7 rushing TDs
In October, we ran for 150.8 ypg and 4 rushing TDs.
In November, we ran for 212 ypg and 5 rushing TDs.
(4 games each month).
In the bowl, we ran for 248 yards and 2 rushing TDs.
Fact #1 is that we didn't improve running the football last season.
LINK
2) This is football. Scoring matters.
On first down, the defenses that we face are going to play us straight up with the likelihood that we will run/pass. This is true until we get to the redzone where our deep threat is gone and they have more guys near the line of scrimmage.
Running the football for 5 freaking yards on first down is not the same thing as getting 1.5 yards on 3rd down when you need 1 yard to convert. That 1.5 yards is infinitely harder than the 5 on first down. Put the goalline at 1 yard... and it gets even harder than that. But thousands of people in Vegas and millions of fans sure can tell you that the 6 points for that 1.5 goalline yards matters a heckuva lot more than 5 yards on a first down from your own 40.
Here are your facts.
SEC Champ/ National Champ 2007 LSU scored 35 rushing TDs.
SEC Champ / National Champ 2008 Florida scored 42 rushing TDs.
SEC Champ / National Champ 2009 Bama scored 31 rushing TDs
SEC CHamp / National Champ 2010 Auburn scored 41 rushing TDs
SEC Champ 2011 LSU Scored 35 rushing TDs. National Champ Bama score 34 rushing TDs.
SEC Champ 2013 Auburn scored 48 rushing TDs (FSU Scored 42 rushing TDs)
SEC Champ 2014 Bama scored 35 rushing TDs (OSU scored 42)
SEC Champ National Champ 2015 Bama scored 33 rushing TDs
2016 SEC Champ Bama scored 33 rushing TDs (Clemson scored 45 rushing TDs).
You've got to be good running the football (rushing TDs) and stopping the run (rushing TDs). Everything else is just window dressing to the moments that matter (goalline).
UGA's best recent years had 32 rushing TDs in 2007 and 32 rushing TDs in 2012. We had solid run defenses those seasons as well.
We ran for 191 ypg in 2016. 8 wins.
192 ypg in 2015 10 wins.
The difference? We ran for 22 TDs in 2015 and 18 in 2016. Our run defense gave up a ton more rushing TDs in 2016 as well. This game is measured on points and points alone.
I hope this post was long enough for you.
Edited to make corrections to yards/game from link.
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 5:41 am
Posted on 8/26/17 at 5:33 am to Peter Buck
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dependable deep threats on the outside.
i'm trying to recall the last time we had one of these. surely we've had one since AJ, right?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:08 am to meansonny
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GT,TCU and AU were ALL superior rushing defenses
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Hahahahahahahahahaha
TCU was 10th in the nation in yards per game given up
GT was 41 in the nation
Auburn was 97th in the nation, so I don't think compared to many of the other defenses we faced, what he said was off base.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:56 am to DawgsLife
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TCU was 10th in the nation in yards per game given up
GT was 41 in the nation
Auburn was 97th in the nation, so I don't think
Rush defense has Auburn at 28.
GT is 66.
TCU is 76.
LINK
These are the metrics that he wants to use. I thought I would share how crappy GT and TCU were.
I dgas about yards per game. 3rd down conversions and goalline stats are a better indicator if a team can really run when they want/need to.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 9:02 am
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:19 am to meansonny
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Rush defense has Auburn at 28.
GT is 66.
TCU is 76.
LINK
These are the metrics that he wants to use. I thought I would share how crappy GT and TCU were.
You're right. I was looking at a different year. My bad.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:34 am to meansonny
It was completely pointless in regards to my arguments regarding our improvement in the rushing game.
*The stats are obvious.We were horrible vs some of the worse run defenses in the country at the beginning of year and ypg improved dramatically vs BETTER rushing defenses the last 3rd of the season.
*The stats are obvious.We were horrible vs some of the worse run defenses in the country at the beginning of year and ypg improved dramatically vs BETTER rushing defenses the last 3rd of the season.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:40 am to meansonny
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Rush defense has Auburn at 28.
GT is 66.
TCU is 76.
I'm use metrics to prove they were a hall of a lot better than Ole Miss 117 and Mizzou 118 and Nichols State
How do you not get this?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:54 pm to RD Dawg
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How do you not get this?
I dgaf whether TCU has a better rush defense than Mizzou or not (especially when measuring ypg because their are a lot of other factors going into whether a team is running the ball in the 2nd half or not).
If I cared that much about other teams, I would be on other boards.
We didn't play better. Ypg at the end of the season wasn't better than September (and this is your metric). At the end of the season, touchdowns wasn't better than September.
You are wanting and hoping more than paying attention to your own facts.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 5:54 pm to meansonny
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their are a lot of other factors going into whether a team is running the ball in the 2nd half or not).
Ya think! How bout garbage yards and 2 rushing TDs down 45 pts vs Ole Miss or maybe running out the clock vs Auburn? Yet you use both of those situations to bolster your arguments.
My argument has always been that we ran the ball better in the last 3rd of the season than we did in the in the 1st 2/3 of the season vs BETTER defenses.
And there's absolutely no way to refute it ,
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 11:08 am
Posted on 8/27/17 at 8:58 pm to RD Dawg
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My argument has always been that we ran the ball better in the last 3rd of the season than we did in the in the 1st 2/3 of the season vs BETTER defenses. And there's absolutely no way to refute it
Um, as he pointed out:
"1) In September, we ran for 216ypg and 5 rushing TDs
In October, we ran for 182.3 ypg and 5 rushing TDs.
In November, we ran for 189.3 ypg and 4 rushing TDs.
(4 games each month)"
That refutes your point - the best running was in the first 1/3 of the season.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:24 pm to FaCubeItches
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That refutes your point - the best running was in the first 1/3 of the season.
Really? So you're leaving out the TCU game???_GTFO
And you really think all those rushing yards gained vs the
the Ole MISS 4th team defense proves anything in regards to YPG rushing totals in September???
Cherry picking at its finest and doesn't refute anything
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:41 pm to FaCubeItches
I'm pretty sure the final game of the year should be included in any statistic describing the end of the season. Though, I'm an accountant not a linguist.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:34 pm to Barstools
Double checked your November numbers and they were wrong even using last the 1/3 season metrics without TCU we averaged
212 rushing per game. So
I can assume your other numbers are off.
215 vs UK
263 vs GT
235 vs ULL
135 vs AU (actually 180+ yards rushing but sacks and a 20 yard loss for a bad snap are included) for argument sake I'll stick with 135
Still comes out to 212 and if you include TCU the average goes up to 218 (give or take)
So we averaged 178 rushing the 1st 8 games and 218 the last 5.Pretty much backs up what I stated to begin with
212 rushing per game. So
I can assume your other numbers are off.
215 vs UK
263 vs GT
235 vs ULL
135 vs AU (actually 180+ yards rushing but sacks and a 20 yard loss for a bad snap are included) for argument sake I'll stick with 135
Still comes out to 212 and if you include TCU the average goes up to 218 (give or take)
So we averaged 178 rushing the 1st 8 games and 218 the last 5.Pretty much backs up what I stated to begin with
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:24 am to Sandwich
While the OL was terrible, Eason's accuracy was just about as bad. If Eason's accuracy continues to suffer, I'd bring in Jake Fromm State farm...in a flash. BTW...there have been some who have said Eason is still having accuracy issues.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:28 am to gulfportdawg
Sc game was awful, but his accuracy was better than some of y'all remember.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:32 am to djsdawg
I saw numerous underthrows, and overthrows, as well as balls thrown slightly behind the receiver. Remember the bad throw to a receiver against yech that would've probably iced the game? It was slightly behind the receiver, and the receiver tipped it into the hands of a yech defender. Result...lost game.
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