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re: From here, I see Chubb winning the Hiesman in 2016,
Posted on 1/13/16 at 10:22 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 1/13/16 at 10:22 am to DawgsLife
Maybe under our new leadership, we will take a more aggressive approach to promoting our players for Heisman. I think Chubb has a shot if he can miss no more than one or two games.
And maybe it will be a QB from the South who wins it!
And maybe it will be a QB from the South who wins it!
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:15 am to Broncothor
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we will take a more aggressive approach to promoting our players for Heisman
Why? The argument during the BCS era was clear, in that having a heisman candidate gave the team more recognition. With the playoff era here, I don't see how this is terribly important. I'd rather an aggressive approach to winning. Just doesn't seem like it's worth our resources/time to "push". If we win and Chubb performs, he'll be in the conversation. Particularly given the struggles on offense this year, he'll be seen as the "savior returned".
Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:27 am to fibonaccisquared
Helps with recruiting great players. And I think it only fair to a player with Gurley or Chubb stats and talent to at least be par with other schools who push their players.
I don't think the PR push steals time away from the people working to win us games.
I don't think the PR push steals time away from the people working to win us games.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:30 pm to Broncothor
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Helps with recruiting great players
Maybe marginally. You know what really helps, getting good players, winning championships, and then sending to the NFL. Because ultimately, that is the "dream promise" these guys are operating under. All of the top recruits are operating under the assumption of: Go to good college with program that I can be successful in > kick arse/take names/roll up stats > Get Drafted (read: paid)
I do believe that the PR hype around Heisman players often detracts from the overall team messaging that is going out. Keeping them humble. Getting the best from them each week. Look at Fournette v. Henry this year. There was *very* little Heisman hype around Henry till 75% of the way through the season. Early in the season it was Fournette/Chubb/Watson > later Baker Mayfield, < insert White RB from Stanford >, and others came into the conversation along with Henry. Even then, I didn't feel like there was that much "push" from Bama, just people looking at eye popping stats and seeing his performance in big games down the stretch.
UGA's recruiting limitations (if we assume they have them) is largely based on *team perception* (underachievers, big stage busts, soft...) rather than individual recognition. Chubb (and Gurley before him) had plenty of publicity, and Chubb would have been in the conversation at the end of the year if W/L goes differently against 2/3 Bama, TN, UF (along with obviously no season ending injury).
Similarly, Gurley suffered injuries and the Signature scandal which eliminated him from contention.
Misplaced emphasis on shite like this is a great way to miss the larger picture.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 10:44 pm to fibonaccisquared
The people that will be running the PR campaign for Chubb as Heisman will not have anything to do with our coaches or the people that help us win. We should push for Chubb as Heisman as an athletic department. Auburn pushed Tre Mason right to the forefront if I remember correctly. It will not be a waste of time or resources I guarantee you that. And it looks good to promote your star players and help get their name out there. Elite recruits will take notice
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:02 am to DrewDawg13
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Literally every single report
Link one, please.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:17 am to SneakyWaff1es
LINK
This one here says Chubb will be back full by summer. I also know one of the trainers of staff, and they said he will be back before the season starts. You can doubt me all you want, but Chubb will be playing against UNC.
This one here says Chubb will be back full by summer. I also know one of the trainers of staff, and they said he will be back before the season starts. You can doubt me all you want, but Chubb will be playing against UNC.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:27 am to DrewDawg13
That article is from October, it'd be nice if you could link something more recent but I don't think you can. I also think you lack some reading comprehension skills, that article says that nobody on staff gave a timetable for return, just an optimistic viewpoint being that perhaps he can return by summer camp.
I would like to point out that there was a video put out in April of Todd Gurley running full speed on a treadmill and he didn't play in a game until the last week of September and even then only took a handful of carries. It's okay to be optimistic about Chubb bc he is superhuman, but its a little ridiculous to try to guarantee he'll be 100% in August.
I would like to point out that there was a video put out in April of Todd Gurley running full speed on a treadmill and he didn't play in a game until the last week of September and even then only took a handful of carries. It's okay to be optimistic about Chubb bc he is superhuman, but its a little ridiculous to try to guarantee he'll be 100% in August.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:12 am to DrewDawg13
That article doesn't say what you think it says.
We all hope he recovers fully and quickly. You know, hope in one hand and shite in the other and all that.
We all hope he recovers fully and quickly. You know, hope in one hand and shite in the other and all that.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:35 am to SneakyWaff1es
Yea, well, he knows a guy so I'm going with him
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:42 am to MSGADawg5988
This is what I am saying. PR is not done by coaches. And I remember the UGA line really wanting to continue Chubb's 100YPG streak. Imagine how motivated they would be to help him win a Heismann. Yes, I know they should be motivated period, but it helps.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:31 pm to Damn Good Dawg
In all seriousness when is the last time a poster on here who "knows a guy" ends up being even halfway right about whatever he's talking about?
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:06 pm to SumterCoDawg
Peter Buck gets it right more times than not. He happened to be wrong about Tud so he's forever associated with that.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:06 pm to SumterCoDawg
I don't lack anything, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
Todd Gurley had a worse injury, and was back in late September. Chubb was hurt roughly 6 weeks earlier. Just based off that Chubb would be good by the first game. Combine that the fact that it's a lesser injury and Chubb is an absolute freak, it equals him being back by the first game.
Is it really so hard to believe that I, a recent UGA graduate with lots of friends still in school, know an assistant trainer?? It's not like I'm up in here claiming Kirby Smart is my uncle or something.
Todd Gurley had a worse injury, and was back in late September. Chubb was hurt roughly 6 weeks earlier. Just based off that Chubb would be good by the first game. Combine that the fact that it's a lesser injury and Chubb is an absolute freak, it equals him being back by the first game.
Is it really so hard to believe that I, a recent UGA graduate with lots of friends still in school, know an assistant trainer?? It's not like I'm up in here claiming Kirby Smart is my uncle or something.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:24 pm to DrewDawg13
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Todd Gurley had a worse injury
Gurley had a clean ACL tear. Chubb had PCL, MCL, LCL and cartilage tears. Gurley's injury wasn't worse.
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Just based off that Chubb would be good by the first game.
I see your background in medicine is strong.
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Is it really so hard to believe that I, a recent UGA graduate
It's hard to believe you're a graduate. Of High school.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:26 pm to DrewDawg13
quote:You claimed the article said that he would definitely be back in full by summer but it didn't really match what you were saying.
I don't lack anything, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
quote:Eh, ACL injuries these days aren't really that big of a deal, plenty of people come back in the 6-9 month range. PCL tear is 6-12 months depending on severity, plus he tore 2 other ligaments. Physically he should be okay in August for most activities (I hope anyway) but you have to factor in Chubb getting his timing down in a new system, getting in football shape, and taking some contact. Those things take time.
Todd Gurley had a worse injury,
quote:I don't know who you are or who you know so that's pretty irrelevant to me, I've seen way more people say things like this and end up being wrong rather than being right. No offense but that's just how I see it.
Is it really so hard to believe that I, a recent UGA graduate with lots of friends still in school, know an assistant trainer??
quote:Wait, is this some sort of reverse psychology? Blink once if he is your uncle and twice if he isn't.
It's not like I'm up in here claiming Kirby Smart is my uncle or something.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 5:53 am to SneakyWaff1es
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Gurley had a clean ACL tear. Chubb had PCL, MCL, LCL and cartilage tears. Gurley's injury wasn't worse.
Yes it was. ACL tear takes longer time to heal.
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I see your background in medicine is strong.
When did I say I did??
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It's hard to believe you're a graduate. Of High school.
That's rich coming from one of the dumbest/worst posters on here.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:04 am to SumterCoDawg
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Eh, ACL injuries these days aren't really that big of a deal, plenty of people come back in the 6-9 month range. PCL tear is 6-12 months depending on severity, plus he tore 2 other ligaments. Physically he should be okay in August for most activities (I hope anyway) but you have to factor in Chubb getting his timing down in a new system, getting in football shape, and taking some contact. Those things take time.
While I agree that ACL tears(and really any ligament tears) are not as bad as they used to be, ACL is still worse than a PCL. They both can be made worse when there is nerve damage present, but in Chubb's case there wasn't. The timetable Chubb has followed so far, the quickness of the surgery, the fact that he has been off crutches for a while now, etc. is proof that Chubb is ahead of the game.
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I don't know who you are or who you know so that's pretty irrelevant to me, I've seen way more people say things like this and end up being wrong rather than being right. No offense but that's just how I see it.
Perfectly fine with me. I'm just letting you know what I know. When August rolls around you will see Chubb returning to full speed.
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Wait, is this some sort of reverse psychology? Blink once if he is your uncle and twice if he isn't.
I don't think you know what reverse psychology is.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:01 am to DrewDawg13
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ACL is still worse than a PCL
Usually. But Chubb tore his PCL and two more. Which means MCL and LCL. And some cartilage. That's a significant amount of damage. He's a strong kid and he works as hard as anyone by all accounts so his recovery may be faster than normal but muscular recovery doesn't mean his ligaments are fully healed. If he rushes is and comes back early, you're looking at Marshall, Scott-Wesley and Mitchell all over again.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:27 am to DrewDawg13
Well if Chubb isn't playing the first game I'm blaming it all on you. Also, you were pretty wrong about your last prediction on here (You said UGA would blow out PSU), so my confidence level isn't that high with you right now.
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