Freeze's outspoken religious beliefs and the current fiasco

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Or, is it a little more nefarious, and is he using religion as a mask to hide the cheating and one of the most corrupt recruiting staffs in the last decade or two?

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I think it is something in between. He got caught up in the pressures and demands of showing results. He probably figured that it was the way business was handled in the world of college football and went with it.

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If that's the case, it's very unfortunate to tarnish the perception of a religious teaching for your own personal gain. I know he wouldn't be the first or last to do it, but it still seems fricked up.

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There are no perfect Christians. Christians make bad decisions and fall short all the time. It is being human. If you are looking for perfect people you will always be disappointed. Are you shocked if you hear a story of Steve Spurrier doing something good? (Ok. Maybe. *L*) Spurrier used to call Lou Holtz (Or some other coach...but I think it was Holz) and his wife every week when Holtz's wife had a diagnosis of cancer. Sometimes immoral people do good things and sometimes good people do bad things.

A smart person said " the more a person talks about how Christian they are, the more likely they will assfrick you, your wife, or your kid"

Didn't he tell a recruit that the investigation was an example of being persecuted for his faith or something like that?

He's either a complete snake or batshit insane.

I have found, like some of you, that if someone has to tell you how Christian they are, better not turn your back to them. Some of the biggest "Christian" proclaimers I've ever met have either screwed me out of money, etc. or tried to. If someone is a true Christian they'll show you, not tell you.

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There are no perfect Christians. Christians make bad decisions and fall short all the time. It is being human. If you are looking for perfect people you will always be disappointed. Are you shocked if you hear a story of Steve Spurrier doing something good? (Ok. Maybe. *L*) Spurrier used to call Lou Holtz (Or some other coach...but I think it was Holz) and his wife every week when Holtz's wife had a diagnosis of cancer. Sometimes immoral people do good things and sometimes good people do bad things.

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Look, I grew up K-8th grade in private Christian school, spent my entire life in ththe church, and, while my religious beliefs have changed, I still attend mass nearly every Sunday. I understand "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". There are men like Richt who wear their religion for everyone to see, is one helluva GOOD man, and I think truly strives to live as Christ commanded his followers. There are also guys like Spurrier who is kind of cocky SOB, but I've met him a couple of times and all the stories around town are that he's really nice and a good dude... Thorn in our side, aside. My issue with Freeze is that he flaunts his religion but I never saw to be genuine like Richt was, it always seemed like more of an act. listening to his media days pressers every few years, he could come across a real jack arse. If you're going to be in such a public position and proclaim to be such a man of God, you have to realize that you're under a microscope. Just always thought Freeze was using it as a recruiting tool and not genuine faith. I'm sure some folks will take me to task do that, but that's my read on the dude.

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My issue with Freeze is that he flaunts his religion but I never saw to be genuine like Richt was, it always seemed like more of an act.

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It may have been. I don't know. I've never met him. Honestly, I've never even heard an interview with him, so I have never seen him proclaim to be a Christian. I honestly don't know. I've seen people allude to it, but I also know how people shade things. He may be exactly as you describe.

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If you're going to be in such a public position and proclaim to be such a man of God, you have to realize that you're under a microscope.

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You should be aware. But is it really fair? I mean, don't all coaches (Or most, anyway) proclaim to be doing things "the right way..." and doing things fair and above board?

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Just always thought Freeze was using it as a recruiting tool and not genuine faith. I'm sure some folks will take me to task do that, but that's my read on the dude.

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And again you might be spot on. I'm just surprised to see how many people seem to revel when a professed Christian fails. People don't seem to get that kind of derision for anyone else except really boorish people (Urban Meyer) and Christians. My only point was that he is a person....and people make mistakes and do things they regret. Christians do and non-Christians do. I'm not arguing he should be given a pass.
I also understand when you publicly make a show of being a Christian you put a target on your back and you become a watched person. Every thing you do and say is put under a microscope. Every mistake is torn apart and you are criticized for it. Fair? That's for others to decide.

Y'all think freeze didn't realize that he was pulling in top recruiting classes at Ole Miss on something more than his awesomeness?

Evil often hides behind religion. Consider the case of Baylor College, a Baptist school completely tolerant of sexual assault and rape.

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Personally, I've never found him to be very genuine

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He's always come across as a phony manipulater to me. A borderline sociopath.

Hes also one of Kirby's closest coaching buddies in the conference outside of Muschamps.

So what does that say about the judgement of our leader?