re: Cops are Heros and they protect us.

I assume that you read my experience I posted in this thread. In my 44 years, that was the ONE encounter with a LEO that was bad.....very bad. I have had several driving related encounters where the officers were professional and polite. I appreciate what you do for work and to earn a living. My respect for a LEO is no different than my respect for an electrician, plumber, physician, teacher, etc.. who does their job professionally. Respect is earned and like in any profession, there are those who do not earn respect ,yet, demand it anyway. The mad man who accosted me did not deserve my respect but received it anyway because I knew it was in my best interest to not incite him to do something even crazier than what he was already doing. If my plumber, or say the manager of a store feels disrespected by me than we have several options. We can even fight if it came to that. However, if you are unfortunate enough to encounter one of these abusive, power tripping type of cops and you know you have done nothing wrong or illegal .....and you as much as question the harassment, their is no diversity of solutions. His anger at your lack of respect typically results in physical harm to you and trumped up charges. Now, granted, I know this happens in a very, very low % of stops and it is done by a very, very low % of cops. But it does happen and I have no doubt that you know this and might have actually seen it at some point in your career.

I guess the question is how can the LE profession do a better job of making sure that the people wearing the badge and carrying the gun is mentally equipped to do the job? To insure that a meathead just wanting a license to "bust heads" is kept far away from this position of authority?

Wanna see how big a dick the police can be? I have several friends that are in a MC....one of the BIG 3 according to ATF. I'm not a badazz and would prolly be the first dude running out the door if they ever started anything, which they don't. I met them 9 or 10 years ago when they started an annual ride for our local children's home who my mother happens to be the director of. The last few years local police, ATF and SLED have all but shut it down. They follow, take pictures and in general harass everybody in it to the point that the non MC riders just don't think it's worth it. They average between 5 and 6 grand for the ride, and even bring toys and stuff by at Christmas.

I'm 49 so I'm not naive to what some of em do, but that one day a year they could back the frick off. I will admit it is funny to watch em "salute" the ATF guy taking pics. They truly don't give a frick.

I guess the Cops on here aren't going to read my posts or address my questions or concerns.

But you probably don't have time for that like the Cop who executed Kieth Vidal.

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Or maybe you just want to blow my face off like you did this Baby's?

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People are tired of your "not all Cops are bad" mantra.

Again you are sitting on your couch reading news articles about police misconduct and convoluting a nationwide police abuse conspiracy in your head.

You don't know how it is to deal with these situations. They are rapidly evolving and you must make decisions very quickly. I'm not saying the officers were right to shoot the mentally ill kid I'm just saying neither do you. You weren't there! Stop pretending you know something we don't. By the way "all cops are not bad" is not a mantra. It's the truth.

What's your point? Do you think those officers went to that house wanting to execute anyone? I doubt it. Was that a fatal error in information giving on a search warrant? Yea, and a sad error that needs answering to. Should the officers lose there job? Probably...but if I believed in good faith that I was doing a search warrant on the right house and when I entered the house someone fired a weapon at me that I wouldn't return fire? Yes I believe I would. It's the same idea behind stories of people who walk into thier home and see someone lurking in the shadows and shoot them, only to find out that it was a suprise birthday party guest. Is it tragic? Yes. Does it need correction? Absolutely! But it is not an execution! Come on have some sense!
You also said you do know what it's like. May I ask where you served as a law enforcement officer at?

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Do you think those officers went to that house wanting to execute anyone

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more times than one might suspect..

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Cops are scum

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Absolutely.

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they execute (...) citizens with complete impunity.

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Fixed that for you. They execute all citizens with apparent impunity, guilt or innocence be damned, not that they are appointed as executioners anyway.

I've addressed the problems with cops elsewhere. Until cops police themselves JUST AS RIGOROUSLY as they do the public at large, the disconnect will grow, fester, and explode.

Explode.

Far be it from me to bring logic and reason to this board. You guys enjoy your cop bashing. I hope it makes you feel better.

My thought as a reasonable person is to try to emphatically communicate with those that think differently than me. As this conversation has lead to name calling and immature remarks it is obvious that those on here doing that have no real desire to see meaningful change. You all simply want to stir things up.