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re: CKS not happy at all with the "physicality" of our receivers
Posted on 9/14/16 at 5:13 pm to GurleyGirl
Posted on 9/14/16 at 5:13 pm to GurleyGirl
In most cases, generically speaking, bigger is better, no argument there.
But to say our receivers are too small to block effectively is the piece of that article I had a problem with.
Are they going to take out linebackers? No. Can they get in the way of a linebacker and tangle him up for a 1/2 second so the ball carrier can get by? Damn right they can.
But to say our receivers are too small to block effectively is the piece of that article I had a problem with.
Are they going to take out linebackers? No. Can they get in the way of a linebacker and tangle him up for a 1/2 second so the ball carrier can get by? Damn right they can.
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Posted on 9/14/16 at 5:20 pm to FaCubeItches
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Force = mass times acceleration.
I had a coach that used this same equation to prove that a smaller guy actually could block a bigger guy. He used to line up the little guys against the bigger guys and have them run straight into each other in one of his sick drills.
Although the smaller guy was usually the one going to the ground, he would point out that the bigger guy still got slowed down by the impact. And slowing them down is all you need to do.
The average NFL safety 3 years ago was only 5-11. I don't know what it is today, but that's what it was in 2013 last time I looked it up.
Not all college secondaries are loaded with Alec Ogletree clones. Just put your helmet on someone, and if he's really big, dive at his knees.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 7:45 pm to deeprig9
I can't believe I'm agreeing with deeprig but he is right. Force = blah blah - That doesn't matter.
All a blocker does is take someone out of the play even for a second or so. We aren't talking about winning a pushing contest over the long haul. It's only seconds here that are needed.
All a blocker does is take someone out of the play even for a second or so. We aren't talking about winning a pushing contest over the long haul. It's only seconds here that are needed.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 7:55 pm to deeprig9
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Just put your helmet on someone, and if he's really big, dive at his knees.
Boom!! This ^^^ That's how even the smallest player can do it if he's tough.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 9:33 pm to Biggen
Easy there, slick. If you find yourself wondering if Todd Grantham is a good kisser, you've likely tapped too far into the Deeprig frequency.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 9:55 pm to gulfportdawg
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Just let Hines Ward talk to them.
^^THIS^^
I would somehow someway have him involved in the program. Value is strong with him.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 7:30 am to GoldenDawg
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I remember little T. Edwards blocking Batman Carroll through the end zone, out of the Georgia Dome, and into the parking lot in the SEC Championship game against Arkansas.
I watched Calvin Johnson when he was in high school run over two defenders blocking for his tail back on a sweep play. Johnson's blocks sprung that kid for about 70 yards and TD.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 7:44 am to deeprig9
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if he's really big, dive at his knees
Why does GT spring to mind when I read this?
Posted on 9/15/16 at 7:48 am to deeprig9
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I had a coach that used this same equation to prove that a smaller guy actually could block a bigger guy. He used to line up the little guys against the bigger guys and have them run straight into each other in one of his sick drills.
If the only way you can successfully block is to demolish someone you're doing it wrong. All it takes is the smarts to position your body between the ball and would-be-tackler; and the will to do it. Frankly doesn't require toughness (from a WR standpoint) or size. But it does require you not be a lazy sack of shite or an idiot.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 7:49 am to DaveyDownerDawg
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I watched Calvin Johnson when he was in high school run over two defenders blocking for his tail back on a sweep play. Johnson's blocks sprung that kid for about 70 yards and TD.
Johnson was an atypical freak in terms of athleticism for his size but yea, the offense should have an advantage in terms of size because obviously the receiver knows where he is going and the DB has to be nimble enough to compensate which is why DB's tend to be smaller/more athletic. By recruiting small receivers you basically neuter this inherent advantage.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 8:20 am to GurleyGirl
Yes, if only we could get 5 Calvin Johnsons on the team 
Most DBs are smaller than the typical receiver. Our smaller receivers more than likely matchup size wise with 90% of the DBs out there.
Most DBs are smaller than the typical receiver. Our smaller receivers more than likely matchup size wise with 90% of the DBs out there.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 8:59 am to TrackDawg
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Most DBs are smaller than the typical receiver. Our smaller receivers more than likely matchup size wise with 90% of the DBs out there.
Well, that's part of the problem from my perspective. Our receivers should be bigger than 90% of the DB's they are matched up against.
Think about it. Why aren't guards matched up against forwards in basketball? The obvious reason is height. An accurate pass can be made to the taller player in a way in which he can reach it but the smaller player can't. All it takes is a receiver with good hands and an accurate QB and you can wear out a team with short passes all game long. This precision passing is the mainstay of a number of NFL teams.Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:30 pm to GurleyGirl
Agree but stay on topic. We're discussing physicality and our WRs having issues blocking. Size shouldn't be the issue. Size helps, but they are not blocking people 30 lbs. heaver.
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:50 pm to TrackDawg
Seems that they don't care about blocking, or at least that's the perception I get...
Posted on 9/15/16 at 3:15 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Michael Bennett was a hair over 200 lbs and he was a great blocker. We just need our receivers to get over themselves and do the other part of their job.
ETA: Just did a search and both Godwin and McKenzie are under 200 lbs but Chigbu is heavier and Ridley is comparable. So is Simmons, Stanley and Wimms. We've got some guys who should be able to be physical in the run game for us so they just need to get at it.
ETA: Just did a search and both Godwin and McKenzie are under 200 lbs but Chigbu is heavier and Ridley is comparable. So is Simmons, Stanley and Wimms. We've got some guys who should be able to be physical in the run game for us so they just need to get at it.
This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 9/15/16 at 5:26 pm to FooManChoo
Why fo I gotsta block, you be havin deez fullbacks and tightends fo dat.... I be Prime Time
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:41 pm to deeprig9
Does anyone know if Kirby is against letting past players come in and try to Jack-Up,and Motivate these new receivers???
Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:46 pm to Spaceman Spiff
All I know is Godwin and McKenzie are our smallest and best receivers so far. The coaching needs to figure out how work around there blocking deficencies. I feel like Godwin has been wasted for this year. That's a 5-star talent(talent that has been shown in the SEC so far) and our leading returning receiver getting like 2 or 3 touches a game so far.
Chigbu can block, but apparently he can't catch. Don't want to be too hard on him, but Godwin doesn't drop those balls.
Chigbu can block, but apparently he can't catch. Don't want to be too hard on him, but Godwin doesn't drop those balls.
Posted on 9/16/16 at 7:59 pm to Leon S Kennedy
Last year McKenzie was a drop machine.
This year... so far... he has been catching them (no jinx times six in the name of our dark lord).
Let's hope Chigbu can start holding onto the ball more too.
This year... so far... he has been catching them (no jinx times six in the name of our dark lord).
Let's hope Chigbu can start holding onto the ball more too.
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