Started By
Message
re: Bobo Sucks
Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:17 am to Padawgjr
Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:17 am to Padawgjr
There's a difference between running a well designed draw play or a sprint draw, to running that fricking play where both the qb and rb just stand there while he puts the ball in the rbs gut and he just stands there for another second to see where he can run.
0
Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:17 am to Padawgjr
quote:
We run shotgun half the time. What? TG draw, TG flat, TG screen out of gun all day this season! Rematch our games please.
And if I recall, those plays have been pretty damn successful.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:35 am to gatorhata9
All I'm saying is that when I watch UGA i feel like I'm watching essentially the same offense that we've had for over a decade. I don't count transitioning from the shotgun....to the I.....and then back to the shotgun..as innovation. Plus that damn shotgun draw play you're talking about never should've seen the field in the first place.
Every now and then we'll do something cool (ie fullback pass to Hicks inside our 5 against SC) where I'll think "HELL YEAH!" but those times seem rare. IMO this year our talent on the field was responsible for the production more so than any offensive genius coming from the booth.
Every now and then we'll do something cool (ie fullback pass to Hicks inside our 5 against SC) where I'll think "HELL YEAH!" but those times seem rare. IMO this year our talent on the field was responsible for the production more so than any offensive genius coming from the booth.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:00 am to SquatchDawg
quote:
IMO this year our talent on the field was responsible for the production more so than any offensive genius coming from the booth.
First off, Bobo is as responsible for recruiting that talent as anyone. That's a big part of his job, and he's good at it.
Second, this statement is true for any coach. Do you think Malzahn is seen as an offensive genius without Cam Newton and an athlete like Nick Marshall running his offense? The year after Cam, Malzahn offense sucked. Do you think Chad Morris' offense will be as successful without Tajh Boyd and Sammy Watkins? Doubtful.
Coaches are typically either successful because they are good at acquiring talent and putting it in a position to be successful on its own or because they are good at creating schemes to mask talent deficiencies. Bobo/Richt have chosen (and are having success with) the first option. Even then, Bobo has gone with more spread concepts this year than ever to mask our problems on the offensive line.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:39 am to Padawgjr
quote:So you have a problem with getting the best RB in the nation as many touches as possible?
We run shotgun half the time. What? TG draw, TG flat, TG screen out of gun all day this season! Rematch our games please.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 7:39 am
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:12 am to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:
So you have a problem with getting the best RB in the nation as many touches as possible?
... 
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:15 am to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:
So you have a problem with getting the best RB in the nation as many touches as possible?
But it's not innovative!!
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:19 am to gatorhata9
quote:
But it's not innovative!!
That's the thing I don't get. Maybe I'm more results oriented than others, but if we're dropping more than 40 points and 500 yds against good teams, I don't give two shits whether it's innovative or not.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:22 am to gatorhata9
I'm glad he keeps feeding the gurley monsters but vs GT I wanted to throw a brick at the coaches booth with how many screens they kept calling. One, I think GT figured it out after like screen #4 and two, Friend or Bobo needs to beat this into the fat asses on the OL that a screen isn't an opportunity to not block at all and you actually do have to block them a few seconds or at the very least chip them or, guess what the play doesn't work. Third, these same lineman needs to understand that after you block for a second or two you need to, idk, block people downfield and not trip over your fricking cinder block feet.
That GT game I wanted throw another brick at Gates and Burnette after watching these lumbering doofuses let people sprint by them without as much as a chip and then go and totally whiff on a LB or CB. Theus, well, I always wanna throw shite at Theus
That GT game I wanted throw another brick at Gates and Burnette after watching these lumbering doofuses let people sprint by them without as much as a chip and then go and totally whiff on a LB or CB. Theus, well, I always wanna throw shite at Theus
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:44 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:
That's the thing I don't get. Maybe I'm more results oriented than others, but if we're dropping more than 40 points and 500 yds against good teams, I don't give two shits whether it's innovative or not.
Exactly. If we weren't putting up points and yards then I'd have a problem with it. But we're getting incredible results. If we didn't have the insane injuries we had this year we would have been top 2 in the conference behind Auburn. If it works, I don't care.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:56 am to Damn Good Dawg
Honestly, I was out of town for that game and only saw the last few minutes plus OT. But when you run screens and what not you don't always block the backside DE. Sometimes it's designed that way because they aren't going to make a play anyways.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:58 am to gatorhata9
quote:
Exactly. If we weren't putting up points and yards then I'd have a problem with it. But we're getting incredible results. If we didn't have the insane injuries we had this year we would have been top 2 in the conference behind Auburn. If it works, I don't care.
While I agree that we have put up enough points to win most games during Bobo's tenure, it's not all about average points per game but rather getting points in the clutch to win big games. That's where we have been lacking. The classic example of course was not coming up with a winning play against Alabama in the SECCG last season. Auburn is playing for another NC not because of stellar defense but rather because their offense was able to score points when they needed them most. In spite of our porous defense vs the run last season, our defense would probably have been good enough to beat an overrated Notre Dame in the NCG if we could have gotten past Bama.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:58 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:This.
That's the thing I don't get. Maybe I'm more results oriented than others, but if we're dropping more than 40 points and 500 yds against good teams, I don't give two shits whether it's innovative or not.
Anyone idiot can come into a program and change everything around (to be "innovative") but it means nothing if it doesn't lead to results. We may run the same boring scheme time after time (we have actually changed things up this season), but that stuff works when executed properly. Results matter, not how cool, fancy, new, or "innovative" it is.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:06 am to davesdawgs
Did you not feel like we were still going to win the AU game when we got the ball back?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:08 am to FooManChoo
quote:
Results matter, not how cool, fancy, new, or "innovative" it is.
Preach it brother!!!
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:14 am to davesdawgs
quote:
While I agree that we have put up enough points to win most games during Bobo's tenure, it's not all about average points per game but rather getting points in the clutch to win big games.
What was LSU? South Carolina? We kept scoring under pressure. We couldn't get stops, but we kept scoring, and scoring, and scoring. Even Auburn this year. Bobo couldn't have called a better 4th quarter in the clutch, realistically. Our inability to make a stop is not on Bobo.
We couldn't come up with the winning play against Bama because a great defensive player made a great defensive play, and the ball happened to be caught in the worst possible spot. Those are the breaks sometimes.
Y'all are looking for the perfect OC. Those don't exist. Y'all are pointing out individual moments of failure and ignoring broader offensive successes. It's a classic case of missing the forest for the trees. We have a good OC, and that's backed up by outside observers saying he's one of the best.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:15 am to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:
Honestly, I was out of town for that game and only saw the last few minutes plus OT. But when you run screens and what not you don't always block the backside DE. Sometimes it's designed that way because they aren't going to make a play anyways.
Which is fine but I am talking interior lineman running freely IIRC. I mean I used to love screens as a lazy OL because I was like oh, neat, I'll just tap this guy and haul arse downfield but you have to fight that urge and at least stop the guys momentum if your inside or Mason will have to rush the through and have no blocking set up for Gurley. Our lineman have serious work to do with not only the initial blocking but getting downfield.
They also need a shite load more conditioning and need to cut down some weight. ECV hasn't been kind on their bellies.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:16 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:
Y'all are looking for the perfect OC. Those don't exist.
Not true, I call a perfect game every game for UDub on the xbox
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:17 am to FooManChoo
quote:
This.
Anyone idiot can come into a program and change everything around (to be "innovative") but it means nothing if it doesn't lead to results. We may run the same boring scheme time after time (we have actually changed things up this season), but that stuff works when executed properly. Results matter, not how cool, fancy, new, or "innovative" it is.
Innovation used routinely becomes a new style/scheme of offense and once teams have seen it enough and figure it out, it's no longer creative. Innovation is required for those clutch plays when the defense has stone walled you by loading the box in the redzone and has tight coverage on your receivers and you absolutely need a first down or TD to win a game. Bama lost to Auburn this season because they had zero innovation on offense. On two 4th and 1's, Bama ran the ball off left tackle and were stopped cold by an Auburn defense not known for good run defense. But they were fired up in their own stadium and rose up to the challenge. Great coaches/OC's recognize those moments and use plays well designed for just such moments. They see the opportunity and have practiced that unconventional play to perfection so that their offense is ready to execute that winning play. Malzahn seized such a moment on the final play of their win vs Alabama. His team was ready to take advantage of the situation and run the FG attempt back for a TD; Bama's special teams unit obviously wasn't prepared for that scenario.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:21 am to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:
Did you not feel like we were still going to win the AU game when we got the ball back?
Nope and I'm sure most Auburn fans didn't expect to win on that fluke play when we had 2 Safeties in position to bat the pass down.
Page 5 of 6
Latest Georgia News
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News