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re: 19 Years Ago Today: Widespread Panic 4/18/1998 Downtown Athens, GA.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:13 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:13 pm to Jefferson Dawg
So what's the real story behind the original drummer getting kicked out of the band? I missed all this.
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:16 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Does the new one always dress like an extra from "That 70s Show' or is this pic from Halloween?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:20 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Jeff...even though you can be a cantankerous shithead sometimes...I really enjoy your posts for the most part....
carry on
carry on
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:54 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Not even close. Believing that and also listing REM's opinion on the subject, proves how out of touch you are on this one. Sorry. Also Jojo Herman is a Mississippi carpetbagger from NYC.
I' mean, I was here during the whole thing and I was paying attention to it all.
Th R.E.M. Reference was nothing to do with their talent assessment. It was to illustrate that they were against the whole Jam band Dead cover stare at the floor and shake your head in your KAO Spring Beach Bash Tee shirt and Birkenstocks scene... once WSP starting getting popular and John Keane hooked up with them, REM started to change their tune about them. They capitalized on good timing in the late 80s and early 90s with the huge resurgence of popularity of the Dead and Allaman brothers. They were a good band for that genre. Jerry Garcia died in 1995 as Gus had proficized*. It was then that they rose to a whole other level and made an absolute killing on the road filling the void for the Dead shows. This is not an opinion. My opinion is their music is mechanically very good, but boring and trite. The whole scene also leaves a lot to be desired...for me personally.... but again, that part is my opinion...
Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:02 pm to Jefferson Dawg
I guess it is good I looked beyond the thread title because although I know it didn't happen in Athens I thought this was going to be a thread about the Olympic bombing back during that same time period.
As for the drummer that dude does remind me somewhat of the drummer for the Kentucky Headhunters.
As for the drummer that dude does remind me somewhat of the drummer for the Kentucky Headhunters.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:10 pm to Peter Buck
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Th R.E.M. Reference was nothing to do with their talent assessment
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REM started to change their tune about them
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REM! REM! REM!!!
I don't understand the R.E.M. fixation.
R.E.M had jumped the shark before Widespread Panic even existed. REM was playing arenas with the indigo girls and accepting MTV video awards and doing PSAs telling people not to wear fur and carrying the banner for mainstream Top 40 when bands like Widespread Panic stole the college music scene away.
Either way, the Grateful Dead thing is dead wrong. Even in 98, when they played for 100 thousand or whatever in Athens, I guarantee you they barely sold out medium sized theatres anywhere outside of the southeast. So the idea that they inherited anything is bizarre.
In the early days , it was just young college kids and good new music that had some hypnotic powers. The hippie stuff seemed to take hold only after their creative powers started to wane and they started living off inertia and became mostly an excuse for losers to gather to do drugs.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 5:24 pm to Jefferson Dawg
This is monteg's bastard half-brother. Black sheep of the family. Outcast for his political views.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 5:55 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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The next day, some severe storms rolled through the area and the damage and flooding took up most of the local news for the week. Overshadowing a story about 49 people that came to be hospitalized from eating food traced back to a clayton street hotdog vendor at 'Panic in the Streets'. Three of them eventually died. And thats a true story.
If true (and I don't care) this is truly an iconic moment in UGA sports history and made my day!
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:09 pm to Givens
Backwards.. Monteg is his bastard half brother.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:32 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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I don't understand the R.E.M. fixation.
REM sucks. There, I said it.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:37 pm to deeprig9
Bloodkin in the streets was better.
I think it was athfest 08 or 09.
I think it was athfest 08 or 09.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:46 pm to FinleyStreet
quote:This.
REM sucks. There, I said it.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:47 pm to TMDawg
I love REM (pre-Monster).
Yall can kiss my arse.
Yall can kiss my arse.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:50 pm to deeprig9
That's what I like about music, everyone can find something they like. I've just never been able to get into them at all.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:52 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Jefferson, it's not a fixation. In the early 80s, R.E.M. Was a great show in Athens. Them and pylon were great shows. They were the cornerstones of Athens music. R.E.M. Certainly jumped the shark and when they did, they started to be vocally approving of WSP... which is not ironic.
Other than a spell in Africa and SE Asia, I was around to watch this whole thing happen. My baseline and context are rock solid. You can say what you want, but anyone who was around and paid attention knows the scene for them changed after 1995 from a hoaky fun Allman brothers band with long guitar solos singing about coconuts to the centerpiece of a subculture usurped from the Greatful Dead... not saying they willingly stole th schtick... but they certainly ran with it.... and being that they were steeped in the frat Jam band culture... it,isn't a big stretch...
Other than a spell in Africa and SE Asia, I was around to watch this whole thing happen. My baseline and context are rock solid. You can say what you want, but anyone who was around and paid attention knows the scene for them changed after 1995 from a hoaky fun Allman brothers band with long guitar solos singing about coconuts to the centerpiece of a subculture usurped from the Greatful Dead... not saying they willingly stole th schtick... but they certainly ran with it.... and being that they were steeped in the frat Jam band culture... it,isn't a big stretch...
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:57 pm to Peter Buck
Here's my question...
If all the Dead Heads jumped on the Widespread tours, then who are all the people that jumped on Phish tours?
If all the Dead Heads jumped on the Widespread tours, then who are all the people that jumped on Phish tours?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:08 pm to deeprig9
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I love REM (pre-Monster).
This. I still rock Murmur on a loop when the heat and humidity gets thick in late May. Makes me want to read SwampThing and get drunk at Noon
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:29 pm to deeprig9
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If all the Dead Heads jumped on the Widespread tours, then who are all the people that jumped on Phish tours?
The ones who liked the scene and original music?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:30 pm to TMDawg
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That's what I like about music, everyone can find something they like. I've just never been able to get into them at all.
When were you in Athens ?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:48 pm to Peter Buck
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The ones who liked the scene and original music?
Good answer.
The way I saw that all go down, a few years younger than you... the Dead Heads initially jumped on Phish, but then there was a split right around 97 where half of them went Widespread and the other half stayed with Phish.
If you wanted weed, shrooms, acid, you went to phish lot.
If you wanted meth, crack, x, opiates, you went to widespread.
Phish was about (1) The music (2) the drugs
Widespread was about (1) The drugs (2) the music
Just my observation as a bonafide hippie during that time period.
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