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re: 19 Years Ago Today: Widespread Panic 4/18/1998 Downtown Athens, GA.

Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by AUGDawg
Montana
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:18 pm to
Peter Buck with the Schools dirt?

Come on...this is the nest
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:35 pm to
Lefty ended up disappointed.... two guys in the band ... 1 ended up gay and one ended up killing himself
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 7:10 pm to
Hopefully it was tha gay one.
Posted by Peter Buck
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12413 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 7:47 pm to
2 gay boys and 1 gay girl.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:11 pm to
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it's not a fixation.

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posted by username Peter Buck on 4/21/17 at

Are you positive?

Let's get back to the topic though..You don't earn multi-decade longevity and a multi-generational following by inheriting a bunch of losers who hang out in the parking lot before your concert, most of whom are only there to flaunt their phony lifestyle and don't even buy tickets.

And they didn't even inherit anybody's parking lot losers anyway. That was just a result of them earning the ability on their own to play the venues with the bigger parking lots that have the square footage to facilitate all that baloney. It's like ants at picnics for those venues for that style of music. Would have happened even if Jerry Garcia had lived to be 100.

ANother hole in your claim is the chronological order of it. The truth is the music snob gatekeepers of early 90s version of "the scene" had already been complaining that WSP had become too successful and mainstream.....looong before healthnut Jerry Garcia's heart popped like a zit.

When they recorded that song "Cant Get High", it was kind of like when REM did that ryming song on DOcument. Suddenly, they were on Conan Obrian and parents were dropping their junior high school kids off at WSP shows so they could hear the band that plays "Can't get High". And "the scene" went into red alert crisis mode! Oh no!!!It's no longer ultra special cool to like WSP!! This is how childish and gay the politics of "scenes" and music snobs are.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 3:57 pm to
It's a funny story, but when we moved here from the rant, I made a new name. I was with my kids on a college tour and they had a Peter Buck hall at one of the schools. Turns out he started the Subway Sandwich shop. It was kinda in my head when I needed a handle... not much more to read into it... I'm actually not a big fan of his or the Subway one either...
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:30 am to
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it was kind of like when REM did that ryming song on DOcument.


You mean that song with KRS1? Radio Song?
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 8:04 am to
Jefferson keeps making it about R.E.M., when this is really about the fact that WSP was steeped in the Fratty world of the boring Allman Brothers and Dead Birkenstock and BMW scene... if the Dead were still around doing shows regularly, WSP would not have become the touring machine they became. The musicians are talented, but the songs are boring and unoriginal. The great thing about music, is you can like whatever you want... even if it is simple minded and unoriginal and makes you feel you are part of a scene.
Posted by AUGDawg
Montana
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 12:48 pm to
Diner, Driving Song, Jack, Pilgrims, StopGo, Space Wrangler, Papas Home, Hatfield, etc are unoriginal and boring?

How about them single handedly making people outside of Athens aware of Vic Chestnutt & Bloodkin?

Did one of the guys steal your girlfriend or something 30 years ago?
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:00 pm to
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boring Allman Brothers


Now I hate you
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 4:05 pm to
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It was kinda in my head when I needed a handle... not much more to read into it... I'm actually not a big fan of his or the Subway one either...

And the hundreds of posts about REM and "the scene" were flukes too probably.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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31961 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 4:08 pm to
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You mean that song with KRS1? Radio Song?

No, the rhyming one about earth quakes, birds and snakes, and arrow planes.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12413 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 4:17 pm to
I liked Vic Chesnut when WSP was doing Allman Brothers and Dead covers at the EX house on Thursday nights... please...
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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31961 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 7:56 pm to
I'm not into the jamband stuff. I know enough about it though to know that their sound is as unique and original as it comes. The secret was the way their original guitarist played, which has never been played like that before, and the new guy is able to duplicate it, so they're still in business.

Either way, nobody'd probably disagree though that they're one of the most hard-working and humble bands in the history of recorded music though. So it seems kind of petty to shite on them as copy-cat lucky-sperm-club legacy inheritors.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63825 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 8:14 pm to
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The secret was the way their original guitarist played, which has never been played like that before, and the new guy is able to duplicate it, so they're still in business.

Either way, nobody'd probably disagree though that they're one of the most hard-working and humble bands in the history of recorded music though. So it seems kind of petty to shite on them as copy-cat lucky-sperm-club legacy inheritors.


That's not really fair. I'm not a widespread fan, but they, and the original guitarist, did have a unique sound. The replacement guitarist is following a cartography mapped out by the original. You silly little duckling.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 8:21 pm to
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Vic Chesnut

Very depressing and sad most of it. And kind of disturbing sometimes.

Freakish talent obviously. From another world.

I wonder what the catalog would have sounded like though if it weren't for his condition. Cooped up, and crippled and self aneastheisized. Or maybe he'd have been an insurance salesman if it wasn't for the wheelchair. WHo knows how that stuff works..

Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 8:22 pm to
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I'm not a widespread fan, but they, and the original guitarist, did have a unique sound.

I'm confused. That's what I said.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 8:27 pm to
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The secret was the way their original guitarist played
Sometimes it was almost haunting the way Mikey used the volume pedal to weave in and out of the music. Can't think of anyone else right off the top of my head that used it to the same extent that he did.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 9:59 pm to
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Sometimes it was almost haunting

Their three stringed instrument players had some kind of weird chemistry.

ON their own individually or with others, whatever. Put them together, look out.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12413 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 10:01 pm to
Jim Hendrix did... but he did it much better.

Not sure a lot of you get the context of all of this... if you like them, then they are good ... music is cool like that.

Vic Chesnutt was very original and very out there. He kinda almost made you feel uncomfortable. He was in Athens and doing good work well before WSP. Same with Jack Logan, who was possibly as odd, but a lot of fun to watch.

..but make no mistake... they were steeped from the frat Jam movement... and that was a joke in Athens in the 80s... I guess the victors can rewrite history...
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