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re: Tom Herman

Posted on 11/18/16 at 2:11 am to
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
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Posted on 11/18/16 at 2:11 am to
Which is why I said I would keep him if Chad Morris is hired. Morris is known around the state and is very well respected. Recruiting shouldn't be a problem for him so Chavis will get his players.
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9057 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:28 am to
The texas sites have started hinting at character/closet skeleton issues with herman, and that they might not be interested anymore.

To me that can only mean one of three things. They are either resigned to keeping Strong another year, and they are trying to dampen the herman hype from within their fanbase. OR. Herman is likely headed to a team they have a rooting interest in not doing well, and are trying to sew seeds of doubt and undercut the hype/perception. OR. They are using their media to undercut his salary value so they don't have to pay him 8 million per.
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 8:42 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:36 am to
I could care less if Chavis stays at this point. Let whoever the HC is decide
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:41 am to
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I don't want anyone who doesn't have a reputation elite recruiting


That doesn't always translate. A guy who recruits elite at Bama could recruit so so elsewhere.

Given how hard it is for us I think it would take a coach with a national title on his record to out recruit Sumlin.

I would be happy with a coach who is actually a good coach above and beyond the ability of his assistants.
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 8:41 am
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:03 am to
quote:

I would be happy with a coach who is actually a good coach above and beyond the ability of his assistants.


This. Give me Chris Petersen over Les Miles all day, every day.

He's not going to out-recruit many other top coaches but damn can he out-coach them.
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
Member since Apr 2016
5541 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:44 am to
quote:

The texas sites have started hinting at character/closet skeleton issues with herman, and that they might not be interested anymore. To me that can only mean one of three things. They are either resigned to keeping Strong another year, and they are trying to dampen the herman hype from within their fanbase. OR. Herman is likely headed to a team they have a rooting interest in not doing well, and are trying to sew seeds of doubt and undercut the hype/perception. OR. They are using their media to undercut his salary value so they don't have to pay him 8 million per.


the one texas donor i know (hes not a BMD though) said strong is gone. i dont think herman is out of it but them sewing seeds of doubt is typical. its easy to speculate on character issues after that petulant interview he did over the kyle allen situation.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2617 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:04 am to
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And UofH boards rumored that he told his team before the Navy game that he was indeed leaving UofH at the end of the season.


I find this really hard to believe, no way a coach does that with half of the season to go. I would more likely guess at grasping at straws to figure out how they lost a game they shouldn't have.

I think the shine has worn off Herman a little bit but I still think a big enough college is gonna take a chance on him and he likely will be coaching somewhere else than UH.
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:06 am to
CP is a stud, but doesn't his son need some kind of treatment up in the Pac NW?
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
2983 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:10 am to
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To me that can only mean one of three things.

Could also just be their way of generating clicks/subscriptions
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:17 am to
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Give me Chris Petersen


Goddammit.

Chris Perersen is at his dream school. AND he is having success there.

Chris Petersen is not coming to A&M, LSU, or anywhere else.
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 11:18 am
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:17 am to
quote:

CP is a stud, but doesn't his son need some kind of treatment up in the Pac NW?


I've heard that, and CP has spent his entire career in the NW. I wasn't saying anyone should hire CP specifically, merely giving an example of a very successful HC who isn't going to out-recruit most coaches but still wins.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:19 am to
Ok I gotcha, sorry for the overreaction, I'm just tired of people talking about him without doing any research. UW is where he always wanted to be.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58036 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:42 am to
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And UofH boards rumored that he told his team before the Navy game that he was indeed leaving UofH at the end of the season.


To be fair, the Houston boards are full of people who think Houston lost to Southern Miss in the CUSA title game b/c Sumlin was too busy negotiating a contract with A&M to make a proper gameplan. Of course that ignores the multiple dropped TDs by UH WRs, the blocked punt for a TD, the horrid game by Case Keenum, and the fact that USM was actually pretty good that year too. THey also completely ignore that they had very close calls against a bad UTEP, average La Tech, and very mediocre UCLA. Never mind that taking UH undefeated into a BCS game would have given him even more contract leverage. Nah, he just didn't care to win the biggest game of his coaching career.

Basically when they lose their default reasoning tends to be it's b/c the HC is too busy sniffing around for a better job.


That said, I still think Chad Morris is the guy we should go for if/when Sumlin is no long HC.
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 11:44 am
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:48 am to
I think Chad is our guy.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145078 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:51 am to
am i seriously the only ark mate rowing the boat?
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9057 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:55 am to
Chad is my guy, and I honestly get a little pissed when people make little "of course aggy would fire sumlin and settle for morris" comments. He is an absolute stud, and he gets it done, he chose one of the hardest rebuilds in america and hes making it happen. He had a top 5 offense at tulsa, he was the highest paid oc in the nation at clemson and the best recruiter/talent scout there, and he was a rockstar in HS coaching.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 11/19/16 at 8:58 pm to
Let me know when Herman beats SMU and Navy. He was the only coach out there with a 5-star talent and Ed Oliver made his presence known.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55220 posts
Posted on 11/19/16 at 9:23 pm to
Do not want Herman
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
2983 posts
Posted on 11/19/16 at 9:44 pm to
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Let me know when Herman beats SMU and Navy.

Herman beat SMU+Navy by a combined score of 101-59 last year
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8528 posts
Posted on 11/19/16 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

To be fair, the Houston boards are full of people who think Houston....

I learned a long time ago that there are two types of Cougar High fans;

The first one is the fair weather fan who will occasionally post a "Go Coogs" post on their Facebook feed and will only go to games if the team is ranked and undefeated. They likely know very little about football and are Texans fans first and foremost.

The second group is hardcore fans who are very delusional. This group of people is very small, but they think UofH is as good of a school as A&M or Texas academically, athletically, and research wise. They hate that A&M and UT fans (or fans in general) won't acknowledge them due to our "arrogance" yet they will throw that pseudo Tier 1 status in your face any chance they get (there is no such standard as tier 1 irl ).

I usually try very hard not to talk sports or school spirit with them for those two reasons. All that time commuting from home has made them very bitter
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