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Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:23 pm to Cooter Davenport
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:23 pm to Cooter Davenport
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Give me Chris Petersen
Chris Peterson has a child with special needs which ultimately is why he left Boise for Washinton. College Station probably wouldn't be an ideal situation for his family. This is a similar situation to why Brick Haley stayed in Austin.
A guy on 247 says that this is the short list should Kevin Sumlin get fired or leave for another job.
Mike Gundy
Mark Dantonio
Justin Fuentes
Kyle Whittingham
Gary Patterson
Matt Campbell
Mike Macintyre
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 10:20 pm to Chill98
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Mike Gundy
Not just no, but hell no!
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Mark Dantonio
Intriguing, but if he were our current coach and had the record he has this year, we would probably fire him.
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Justin Fuentes
Do want.
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Kyle Whittingham
I'd be willing to give him a shot. He beat Bama before and would have access to better talent.
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Gary Patterson
I don't have the patience or time to wait for him.
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Matt Campbell
He has never had a good defense. We should pass on him. He is a Big12 coach, not SEC.
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Mike Macintyre
I'm split on him. The first three years he gave to Colorado would have gotten him fired here. But then again Colorado has been a clusterfrick and he literally had to build from the ground up. Not exciting, but I guess I can live with it,
Posted on 11/20/16 at 10:30 pm to Texas Weazel
quote:bullshite. we would not fire him after one cluster of a season after 5 ten win seasons over the past 6 years including 3 straight top 6 finishes, 2 conference titles in 3 years, a rose bowl victory, and a playoff birth
but if he were our current coach and had the record he has this year, we would probably fire him.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 10:52 pm to WestCoastAg
You really don't believe some people would ask for his head after a 3-8 season? I think so.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:15 pm to Texas Weazel
Some people don't matter. When was the last coach to be fired anywhere in one season?
Personally I think Gundy is a great coach. He consistently out performs his situation.
Personally I think Gundy is a great coach. He consistently out performs his situation.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:21 pm to Nguyening
Gundy would be an interesting hire
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:26 pm to Nguyening
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When was the last coach to be fired anywhere in one season?
Ellis Johnson was fired after 1 season at Southern Miss when he went 0-12.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:26 pm to Nguyening
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Some people don't matter. When was the last coach to be fired anywhere in one season?
I wasn't talking about one season, but his entire career replicated at A&M with a 3-8 season happening like it is today at MSU. I just don't see him surviving it with how our boosters like to pull strings and measure dicks. Think of it as a Les Miles situation minus the national championship.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:40 pm to DBU
A good offense with the 95th best total defense in the nation? No thanks. We've tried that already in 2013. It didn't work. You can't have a good offense and hope to outscore SEC opponents every week.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:42 pm to Texas Weazel
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Intriguing, but if he were our current coach and had the record he has this year, we would probably fire him.
He's currently in year 10.
The previous NINE years went:
7-6
9-4
6-7
11-2 (won Big Ten)
11-3 (won his Division)
7-6
13-1 (won Big Ten)
11-2
12-2 (won Big Ten, made playoffs)
3 conference, 4 Division Titles, and five 11+ win seasons over the last six years gives you breathing room for a bad season.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:43 pm to Texas Weazel
I assume he'd have a better DC at aTm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:04 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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3 conference, 4 Division Titles, and five 11+ win seasons over the last six years gives you breathing room for a bad season.
Stuff like that gets tiring for big time programs if all they see is their team get close but not over the hump. And believe me, it would get old for us too. LSU waited and waited on Les but finally gave up on him for not getting national championships. Same thing with Bo Pelini at Nebraska after years and years of 9+ win seasons. A&M doesn't have the tame fanbase that MSU, Virginia Tech, or Iowa has in order to wait around and hope your coach gets lucky. If we see an escape (something like a 3-8 season), I can definitely see us taking it in hopes for greener pastures.
You've said it yourself when criticizing Sumlin a while back. Sumlin is a coach definitely capable of getting you some wins and a 10 win season every now and then, but he will never get you the ultimate prize. That, to me, is Dantonio. I believe he has reached his ceiling as a coach and won't ever win a national championship.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 2:02 am to Texas Weazel
Sumlin can't even win a conference title. Dantonio has 3 at Michigan State.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:32 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Ellis Johnson was fired after 1 season at Southern Miss when he went 0-12.
That was pre-NAFTA
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:35 am to Texas Weazel
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You've said it yourself when criticizing Sumlin a while back. Sumlin is a coach definitely capable of getting you some wins and a 10 win season every now and then, but he will never get you the ultimate prize. That, to me, is Dantonio. I believe he has reached his ceiling as a coach and won't ever win a national championship.
Same here.
I couldn't care less about Dantonio's Big 10 conference titles during a period of weakness for the conference. He's never sniffed a natty and never will. We KNOW his ceiling. I'd prefer we hire a guy who we can at least HOPE has a higher ceiling: like Chad Morris, Tom Herman, or Mike McIntrye. Hell, I think Mike Gundy has - as of this time - an unknown ceiling. He shares a low-talent state with one of college football's VERY biggest programs, has to depend on fighting 100 Texas programs for Texas talent to survive, has to fight an overzealous, self-absorbed super-booster who doesn't like him, and yet he fields highly competitive teams every year. He's like a younger, more flashy offense version of Bill Synder. What if that guy had a big dog program at his disposal?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:39 am to Texas Weazel
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A&M doesn't have the tame fanbase that MSU, Virginia Tech, or Iowa has in order to wait around and hope your coach gets lucky
A&M also has provided Sumlin with recruits on par with those 4 teams combined into an all star team. If they flopped, it wasn't for lack of getting him what he wanted. Do ags play the stupid he loves me, he loves me not, wishy washy BS with recruit budgets? Sure. Sumlin had the classes to compete at a high level though, we had an over 50% bluechip percentage which makes us a top 10 most talented team in the nation for the 2nd year in a row. The recruiting budget didn't go south until middling ROI and Sumlin's attitude like he was making it happen and we should be grateful and never question him.
I wish we pumped out top 10 classes for coaches being fired like tu, LSU, etc... but we haven't caught on yet. That's another topic for another time though.
The topic at hand is finding a coach.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:41 am to Nguyening
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I wish we pumped out top 10 classes for coaches being fired like tu, LSU, etc... but we haven't caught on yet. That's another topic for another time though.
Ditto.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:00 am to Cooter Davenport
Mike Gundy has averaged 9+ wins a season. AVERAGED. at OKLAHOMA STATE.
9.9 if you drop off his first season and only count the last 10.
When isolating the coaching factor, it's all about your programs talent level and support relative to the teams you play. Look at Les Miles, he didn't do shite at OSU and left them in a pickle and then won 10 games a year for a decade at LSU.
9.9 if you drop off his first season and only count the last 10.
When isolating the coaching factor, it's all about your programs talent level and support relative to the teams you play. Look at Les Miles, he didn't do shite at OSU and left them in a pickle and then won 10 games a year for a decade at LSU.
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Les Miles (Big 12) (2001–2004)
2001 Miles 4–7 2–6 — —
2002 Miles 8–5 5–3 W Houston — —
2003 Miles 9–4 5–3 L Cotton — —
2004 Miles 7–5 4–4 L Alamo — —
Mike Gundy (Big 12) (2005–present)
2005 Gundy 4–7 1–7 — —
2006 Gundy 7–6 3–5 W Independence — —
2007 Gundy 7–6 4–4 W Insight — —
2008 Gundy 9–4 5–3 L Holiday 18 16
2009 Gundy 9–4 6–2 L Cotton 25 —
2010 Gundy 11–2 6–2 W Alamo 10 13
2011 Gundy 12–1 8–1 W Fiesta 3 3
2012 Gundy 8–5 5–4 W Heart of Dallas — —
2013 Gundy 10–3 7–2 L Cotton 17 17
2014 Gundy 7–6 4–5 W Cactus — —
2015 Gundy 10-2 7-2 L Sugar Bowl 19 20
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:16 am to Nguyening
Amen. I'm telling you - the guy's done a better job than Sumlin has, without our resources, fanbase, or location, while making due with whatever scraps he can scrape out of Texas, toiling away in the shadow of a Giant.
He must have some kind of skeleton in his closet, otherwise I can't understand why he hasn't been picked up by a bigger program. Yeah he played there, but he and Boone Pickens butt heads and he'd leave if a better job offered.
He must have some kind of skeleton in his closet, otherwise I can't understand why he hasn't been picked up by a bigger program. Yeah he played there, but he and Boone Pickens butt heads and he'd leave if a better job offered.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:22 am to Nguyening
I would take Gundy in a heartbeat
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