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re: tOffical TA/247 war thread

Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:09 am to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:09 am to
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very rational longhorn posters


Is this like jumbo shrimp?
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:22 am to
Posted by Agforlife
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:41 am to
quote:


Is this like jumbo shrimp?



No more like even odds
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:40 am to
If Hamm wants to go for broke, based on the Perroni comments, he could sue for defamation of character based on postings. It would likely be thrown out, but if it made discovery...
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:24 am to
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I really want them to fight IRL. It would be wildly entertaining



This whole situation needs to end as fst and quietly as possible. This is not good for A&M, and a fight would just make things worse.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 6:52 am to
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Hamm owns the gigem247 site. He's not going anywhere. And 247's influence will continue to grow.


Hamm doesn't own it. If 247 wanted to fire him, they have every right too. If the site didn't get the viewership 247 was seeking, they could pull the plug on it. He may run that site, but he doesn't "own" it. They could just as easily let him go and move Perroni up to the main guy.

These two things aren't his first instances of mucking it up. He was doing similar things when he was with Aggie Yell back in the day. Not as far as following someone into the boys room, but on the Chigbu level.

And with Perroni's little message, nothing seems wrong with the interview because there was nothing wrong with the questioning itself, it was his lack of informing people he was doing the interview, which is the first thing they teach you in that line of work
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 7:19 am
Posted by Jobu93
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:27 am to
1. The rational longhorn posters are good in my book.
2. I've yet to see a rational Louisville poster. They are all insane or insane trolls
3. I still don't care about the board smack fight
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:31 pm to
I don't know Hamm so I really prefer not to make judgments about him. I don't however, like his message board persona and like what you are saying, he has a bad rep otherwise. So it bugs me that you've got me defending him but I will because I think this whole ordeal is a bit of a witch hunt and against the best interest of my alma mater.
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Hamm doesn't own it. If 247 wanted to fire him, they have every right too. If the site didn't get the viewership 247 was seeking, they could pull the plug on it. He may run that site, but he doesn't "own" it. They could just as easily let him go and move Perroni up to the main guy.

Sort of. Hamm like all the site owners, is an independent contractor. I'm certain their contracts have certain measures and reasons to terminate them, but he owns gigem247. I can imagine there being language as far as a buyout as well in their contracts because 247 may choose to go another direction. But it's not as simple as firing him since he doesn't work for them technically. It was this model that allowed them to attract some of the best mods from other sites.
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And with Perroni's little message, nothing seems wrong with the interview because there was nothing wrong with the questioning itself, it was his lack of informing people he was doing the interview, which is the first thing they teach you in that line of work

This is an assumption. Recruiting is fraught with miscommunications because you are dealing with so many people and it's all phone. It happens to coaches too. We rarely hear about them because people rarely post emails minutes after they are sent and before the two sides can clear up the differences.

Anyway, as I suspected, that is exactly what happened here. This was just posted by the coach that wrote the email. This shite should never have been in the public arena prior to this discussion and I'm annoyed that the pissing match between the two sites allowed this to happen.

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Hey guys, I'm Michael's position coach and it was my email that ended up on TexAgs, and then migrated to many other boards. I would like to clarify a few things because there were multiple misunderstandings on multiple levels regarding Taylor's article and the subsequent stories.

1. The reason I contacted Taylor initially was because I was under the impression that Michael was unaware his conversation with him was an interview. It has become readily apparent to me that Taylor did inform Michael that he was interviewing him and even omitted quotes, as good journalists do.
2. I regret basically threatening Taylor with contacting the A&M SID office and have apologized to him for doing so as it was patently uncalled-for.
3. Re: the screenshot: an individual close to our program with ties to schools in Alabama has multiple vendettas against practically our entire staff (among others) and was privy to information (my email acct) that he should have never been able to gain access to. (I understand most of you will be justifiably skeptical, but due to privacy concerns on many levels especially regarding Michael, I cannot elaborate further).

I would like to make it known that after speaking with Taylor, I believe he has the best interest of the athletes he covers in mind. I feel that he is honest and credible and I very much regret that this situation has devolved into a stereotypical example of message board assault on his character. I would appreciate if you guys allowed this situation to fizzle on its own because there's absolutely no reason for it to go further (and it shouldn't have even happened to begin with). I would be very disappointed if something like this were to affect Michael's recruitment in any way and his best interests are paramount to me.

Thank you for your understanding.
Mark Twain
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:55 pm to
So now we have defamation of character with malicious intent. Does Hamm have a case?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:26 pm to
FWIW, chigbus coach made this post today on junction

quote:

Hey guys, I'm Michael's position coach and it was my email that ended up on TexAgs, and then migrated to many other boards. I would like to clarify a few things because there were multiple misunderstandings on multiple levels regarding Taylor's article and the subsequent stories.

1. The reason I contacted Taylor initially was because I was under the impression that Michael was unaware his conversation with him was an interview. It has become readily apparent to me that Taylor did inform Michael that he was interviewing him and even omitted quotes, as good journalists do.
2. I regret basically threatening Taylor with contacting the A&M SID office and have apologized to him for doing so as it was patently uncalled-for.
3. Re: the screenshot: an individual close to our program with ties to schools in Alabama has multiple vendettas against practically our entire staff (among others) and was privy to information (my email acct) that he should have never been able to gain access to. (I understand most of you will be justifiably skeptical, but due to privacy concerns on many levels especially regarding Michael, I cannot elaborate further).

I would like to make it known that after speaking with Taylor, I believe he has the best interest of the athletes he covers in mind. I feel that he is honest and credible and I very much regret that this situation has devolved into a stereotypical example of message board assault on his character. I would appreciate if you guys allowed this situation to fizzle on its own because there's absolutely no reason for it to go further (and it shouldn't have even happened to begin with). I would be very disappointed if something like this were to affect Michael's recruitment in any way and his best interests are paramount to me.

Thank you for your understanding.

This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Agforlife
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:48 pm to
So basically Looch just got caught perpetuating a silly fight and needs to apologize and call his fanboys off.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:49 pm to
basically. you know that wont happen though
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:39 pm to
That changes things greatly in my book.
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:25 pm to
Only thing TA didn't do was shite it down immediately. It was on for a few hours at night and was gone in the morning. This was Wareagle044 (or whatever his username is).
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 7:25 pm
Posted by cokebottleag
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Only thing TA didn't do was shite it down immediately. It was on for a few hours at night and was gone in the morning. This was Wareagle044 (or whatever his username is).


Didn't they also call this whole incident out though? I don't think Hamm was mentioned by name, but Liucci made a strong implication that it was 247....?

And the twitter fight offer? Really? Like I said in the other thread, this whole incident is what finally drove me to cancel. TexAgs now has serious egg on their faces about this whole thing, and a public apology is definitely in order.
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:09 am to
What? no, like they said wareagle made a thread about it on there, TA had nothing to do with it and never commented on that email as far as I know.

Also, it wasn't a fight? A poster offered to have them both go to a basketball game with him and discuss there issues, the fight thing was a joke started on here..
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 9:11 am
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:16 am to
quote:

What? no, like they said wareagle made a thread about it on there, TA had nothing to do with it and never commented on that email as far as I know.

Also, it wasn't a fight? A poster offered to have them both go to a basketball game with him and discuss there issues, the fight thing was a joke started on here..


Geez, obviously I can't even keep what's real and whats fantasy separate.

Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:24 am to
quote:

What? no, like they said wareagle made a thread about it on there, TA had nothing to do with it and never commented on that email as far as I know.



Nvm it shouldn't have happened and I'll leave it at that.
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