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re: Let's all take a moment to point and laugh at what is going down on the 40 Acres
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:06 am to greenbastard
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:06 am to greenbastard
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that article is full of sunshine pumping
I did kinda cherry pick. That is what makes it so Frantastic though. We couldn't see the Franness in front of our faces back then, and neither can they.
Today's fun is the fight between those who want Chip Kelly, and those who still remember Texas fans being made at him for cheating in the state. It is like Briles all over again.
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Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:38 am to cardboardboxer
The best thing about them hiring Chip Kelly would be watching the cognitive dissonance in action while they perform a 180 degree mental switch from supporting Charlie due to respect for his "core values" and "discipline" and "doing things the right way" to supporting Kelly, who is the King of Street Agents and Lord of Bagmen.
The worst thing about them hiring Chip Kelly would be watching him steal our recruits because he is King of Street Agents and Lord of Bagmen, and then having him actually turn their program around, because he's a damn good college coach.
The worst thing about them hiring Chip Kelly would be watching him steal our recruits because he is King of Street Agents and Lord of Bagmen, and then having him actually turn their program around, because he's a damn good college coach.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:42 am to Cooter Davenport
Yeah I will be fricking pissed if they get Chip Kelly. Nothing is a slam dunk but they would probably be a top 10-15 team by 2019 if they get him. Would suck for us.
The fact that a decent portion of their fanbase doesn't want him because of the past is hilarious though.
The fact that a decent portion of their fanbase doesn't want him because of the past is hilarious though.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 11:45 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:44 am to cardboardboxer
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We couldn't see the Franness in front of our faces back then, and neither can they.
That's the very problem with Fran-ness. Ask Tennessee fans. When you are face-to-face with a Fran, as a college football fan, you find yourself eating up all the tough talk and kicking players off the team and gimmicks like spreadsheets of analysis and the pit and Night of Champions and the recruiting classes inflated by kids who never make it to campus. I'm sure that people who have lived in dictatorial regimes with a cult of personality and live to see the other side feel the same way about their time "under the spell" of a consciously manipulative leader.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:45 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
He'd be as close to a slam dunk as it gets. He made a living off of Street-Agenting kids out of Texas, so even though he never coached down here, he knows the recruiting territory. I hope Philly goes on a win streak, but...
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:46 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Yeah I will be fricking pissed if they get Chip Kelly. Nothing is a slam dunk but they would probably be a top 10-15 team by 2019 if they get him. Would suck for us.
Agreed, but you could have said the same thing when Charlie was hired if they could have sat on their ego long enough to give the job to Briles without an interview. Every coaching hire is a chance for Texas to either slip further into the abyss or pull themselves out.
I am honestly more scared of a Tom Herman than a Chip Kelly as Kelly never won a really big bowl game and had so-so recruiting for a guy who cheated so much with such great facilities.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 11:47 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:50 am to cardboardboxer
Texas is not an easy fix or anyone especially someone like Kelley. They have an A&M TCU Baylor and Oklahoma problem right now. The most charismatic and talented coach in the world will still need 3 to 4 seasons to come even close to 10 wins
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:58 am to cardboardboxer
Their facilities ARE amazing. I was up there this summer and dang... the football facility & stadium are like this world to their own that reminds one of the corporate HQ campus of an extremely successful Fortune 100. The frigging stadium has waterfalls flowing off of the sides, the IPF is humongous, and the office/locker room/ ops building absolutely mushroom-stamps Bright. Plus, Eugene is a pretty nice town that has picturesque mountain rivers flowing about 15 minutes away.
It'd be pretty funny if UTx hired Chip and he told them their facilities suck and desperately need upgrading... which would be a rude awakening for that fanbase which doesn't realize that dungeon-like Moncrief-Neuhaus has been totally eclipsed by multiple other programs.
It'd be pretty funny if UTx hired Chip and he told them their facilities suck and desperately need upgrading... which would be a rude awakening for that fanbase which doesn't realize that dungeon-like Moncrief-Neuhaus has been totally eclipsed by multiple other programs.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:59 am to Old Sarge
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Texas is not an easy fix or anyone especially someone like Kelley.
Exactly.
And think of the pressure Kelly would be under. If he isn't winning the Big 12 by year two they will see the hire as a flop.
They are in a bad place right now that takes some time to get out of. If they try to get the hot coach he will just burn up in the grease fire. They are better off trying to find the Mike Sherman or Butch Jones out there who will build up things for the next guy. If they reset the clock every couple of year because "we're Texas, we shouldn't be this bad EVER" then they will never get ahead.
I am honestly hoping and expecting Charlie to beat OU this weekend, it is what needs to happen for Tan Fran to be complete.
Remember, it wasn't that we hired Fran that made that situation so bad. It is that we gave him a shitty extension too soon for a shitty trip to the cotton bowl.
Charlie could beat OU, end up with around 5 wins, and then keep his job another year.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:05 pm to cardboardboxer
After strong they will need a Shermanesque hire to lay groundwork
They are 2 coaches away from being a problem to us
They are 2 coaches away from being a problem to us
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:10 pm to cardboardboxer
I don't want them to hire Tom Herman or Charles Edward "Chip" Kelly. Either of those would be a good hire, IMO. Chip would be a big splash, Herman is actually good and destined for greatness.
I want them to hire someone like Dabo or William James "Bill" O'Brien, who have built up programs elsewhere but probably don't understand just how bad of a situation - in terms of talent on-hand and in terms of the recruiting landscape - they'd be walking into. Competent, but un-splash guys who'd try to do it their own workman way and collapse under the immense pressure to win NOW at a program that absolutely can't do that immediately.
I want them to hire someone like Dabo or William James "Bill" O'Brien, who have built up programs elsewhere but probably don't understand just how bad of a situation - in terms of talent on-hand and in terms of the recruiting landscape - they'd be walking into. Competent, but un-splash guys who'd try to do it their own workman way and collapse under the immense pressure to win NOW at a program that absolutely can't do that immediately.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:29 pm to Cooter Davenport
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and the office/locker room/ ops building absolutely mushroom-stamps Bright.
New Bright? No it doesn't.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:35 pm to Gradual_Stroke
I've been inside and outside of both (they don't have any security at Oregon in the summer for some reason - I guess they don't think you'll be so brazen) and yeah, it does. Bright is a typically A&M extremely boring building that's been jazzed-up with paint and stickers. Oregon's building is like the monolith from 2001 - it's an otherworldly black glass modernist structure that's visually interesting and unlike anything else in college football even before you go inside, where it was purpose-built to impress, without having to be jury-rigged after the fact with neon and fatheads.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:37 pm to Cooter Davenport
Tell them I hate it
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:40 pm to Gradual_Stroke
few more things to laugh at from the press conference yesterday
Finger's twitter
and of course... prevail and ride's take
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Texas safety Dylan Haines just spent 10 full minutes calling out teammates for not working and not preparing.
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Duke Thomas on Boyd's halftime retweet: "When he did that, everyone felt disrespected. ... He didn't think anything was wrong with it."
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Duke Thomas said DB Adrian Colbert saw Kris Boyd on his phone at halftime and told him to put it down. Said Boyd didn't see the problem.
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Now a Texas freshman is tweeting "Lol" in response to tweets about Haines' calling out freshmen. This is out of control.
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Haines on young players: "They just want to go out and play the game on Saturday. They don't want to put in the work on (the other days)."
Finger's twitter
and of course... prevail and ride's take
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:55 pm to Old Sarge
The rule:
Once a successful coach leaves or is fired, a school will endure 2 unsuccessful coaches or 10 years in the wilderness, minimum. There is no maximum to the suffering.
There are no exceptions to the rule.
Once a successful coach leaves or is fired, a school will endure 2 unsuccessful coaches or 10 years in the wilderness, minimum. There is no maximum to the suffering.
There are no exceptions to the rule.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:17 pm to cokebottleag
Cursed for LACK OF FAITH.
Mack was fired for 8 wins!
For the children of Austin walked forty years in the wilderness, till all the people that were men of war, which came out of Egypt, were consumed, because they obeyed not the voice of MACK: unto whom MACK sware that he would not shew them the land, which MACK sware unto their fathers that he would give us, a land that floweth with milk and honey.
Mack was fired for 8 wins!
For the children of Austin walked forty years in the wilderness, till all the people that were men of war, which came out of Egypt, were consumed, because they obeyed not the voice of MACK: unto whom MACK sware that he would not shew them the land, which MACK sware unto their fathers that he would give us, a land that floweth with milk and honey.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:40 pm to cokebottleag
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Once a successful coach leaves or is fired, the rule is 2 bad coaches or 10 years in the wilderness, minimum. There is no maximum.
There are no exceptions to the rule.
i feel like we got half of both there
Fran was terrible (sherman was unlucky, but not terrible) and we "struggled" from 02-06ish, Fran got lucky with McGee for 1.5 years, then 07-09, so i'd say 6 years in the wilderness.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:03 pm to 3nOut
I wouldn't call Sherman unlucky. Blowing 1 second half lead is unlucky. Blowing 5 in a row or whatever it was is the mark of a bad coach.
Perhaps I should have said "unsuccessful" instead of "bad". Because the idea is that after the good coach leaves, you get the truly bad coach who destroys the program, and then it takes at least 1 coach's tenure to build it back up and fix the wounds, but it usually isn't enough to save their job.
I'll edit the rule.
Perhaps I should have said "unsuccessful" instead of "bad". Because the idea is that after the good coach leaves, you get the truly bad coach who destroys the program, and then it takes at least 1 coach's tenure to build it back up and fix the wounds, but it usually isn't enough to save their job.
I'll edit the rule.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 4:23 pm to cokebottleag
Now Chris Warren's MOM is pouring gasoline on the tire fire.
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I don't know if Warren's mom gave this interview in a misguided attempt to help Strong by threatening to transfer her son if Strong gets canned. But this doesn't help him. If Strong's own players and their families aren't sure he's going to be coaching next year, how can any 2016 recruit be sure that Strong will be there?
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Whether Washington reaches the six win plateau and earns a bowl berth might not be what Husky fans should be focused on for the rest of the 2015 season. Charlie Strong has come under intense scrutiny as the head coach at the University of Texas this season, following the firing of Athletic Director Steve Patterson.
Strong, known for his Chris Petersen-esq emphasis on character and academics, has struggled to control his locker room over the past couple weeks. Texas defensive back Kris Boyd retweeting a Tweet about transferring to Texas A&M during halftime of the Longhorns-Horn Frogs game was the first crack in the wall.
With pressure from the boosters and fan base, and a continued loss of his locker room, Strong might not be able to get the time he needs to rebuild the Longhorns football program. If that does indeed happen Washington would become a first-choice destination for one current UT running back.
The two programs went head-to-head for Chris Warren, a four-star running back from Rockwall High School (Tex.) with a coin-flip deciding his signature. His mother, K’Tara Lopez, nor Warren are afraid of transferring from UT if things don’t get turned around.
“Christopher will not play for a coach that does not place academics, the development of a young man’s foundation (character) and enforcement of proper conduct on and off the field at a very high level,” Lopez told Realdawg.com in an exclusive interview Monday. “We are not timid about the transfer process like others are.”
Lopez described the current situation as “a wait and see stage” while clarifying she does believe Strong is still the right coach for the job. There is no plan to make an immediate transfer from Austin, but if the season doesn’t finish well there could be a change.
While not directly commenting on which school Warren would transfer to, Lopez said “you know his final list”, alluding the coin-flip decision between Washington and Texas. Others schools, including Oklahoma State received official visits, but his decision came down to the Huskies and Longhorns.
The key for Warren, his mother, and the Strong-Texas situation overall is if the head coach will be allowed enough time to build his program. Lopez believes he can turn around the program, if he gets the chance to.
“I think he can [turn UT around],” she said. “But [I’m] not sure the time frame will work for the UT fans and alumni.”
I don't know if Warren's mom gave this interview in a misguided attempt to help Strong by threatening to transfer her son if Strong gets canned. But this doesn't help him. If Strong's own players and their families aren't sure he's going to be coaching next year, how can any 2016 recruit be sure that Strong will be there?
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