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Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:36 am to
Do we keep Adrian Wolford now that his friend has decommitted?

Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60198 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:37 am to
I don't disagree it's a lot of money. It's just a dumb premise. If we can afford to hire him part of that will be a competitive budget for his staff, otherwise he won't be taking the job since that's a major sticking point in every coaching negotiation. I doubt anyone who posts in here knows if there's a group who is ready to step up financially at the end of this year if it doesn't go as planned.

And if you buyout your incumbent staff, you aren't paying their salary, so you'd be paying one staff plus buyouts
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 10:38 am
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:44 am to
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It's just a dumb premise.


It's a dumb premise from the VERY beginning because Herman is not interested in A&M.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2630 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:44 am to
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Firing Sumlin we would still owe him $10M, plus Herman's reported buyout of $2.25M, plus Herman's salary. You'd be paying arguably close to $17M+ for the first year of the HC contract. I believe Mazzone, Chavis, and possibly Applewhite have similar deals. This is also one of the worst possible years to be in the coaching market. 3-5 SEC coaches on the hot seat, Baylor and possibly Sip job available, possible Big 12 expansion, and possible retirement of some big time coaches


Look we get it, you like Sumlin a lot. But if we suck this season, he's gone. Donors will find the money to make it happen. Ether he wins a lot of games and stays or he's out. We aren't going to base our decision on what's going on in the college football landscape, whatever is the best option for us will be done.
Posted by swaggyp
Member since Jan 2015
895 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 10:52 am to
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It's a dumb premise from the VERY beginning because Herman is not interested in A&M.


Bullseye
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34338 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:03 am to
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Baylor and possibly Sip job available


quote:

Baylor


I can't believe I just read that.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20522 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:14 pm to
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3-5 SEC coaches on the hot seat, Baylor and possibly Sip job available, possible Big 12 expansion, and possible retirement of some big time coaches.


this is the key.

It will be such a shitty year for finding a new head coach with all of the possible big time openings, which makes me think this is the year we try to find a new head coach.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 1:17 pm to
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which makes me think this is the year we try to find a new head coach




It would be so us.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 3:21 pm to
Chad 'Swag' Morris would come here. It remains to be seen if he's really a good HC though. If he has a good year this year at SMU - where June Jones had stopped giving any effort at all for about 2 years and absolutely destroyed the program - then, while he won't be absolutely proven, he will be the best we can get and we could feel fairly confident. Herman is not coming here though. Our fanbase needs to come to grips with that.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55322 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 3:25 pm to
Folks think SUMLIN is bringing too much drama, herman would have us on ESPN for all the wrong reasons daily
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3008 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 3:41 pm to
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Folks think SUMLIN is bringing too much drama, herman would have us on ESPN for all the wrong reasons daily

There's is no "thinking", Sumlin does bring too much drama.

You can try to paint Herman in the same light, but it isn't even close. Sumlin looks like a joke compared to 95% of the coaches out there.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 4:32 pm to
The reality has and always will be that Sumlin is much more likely to leave A&M than we get rid of him. Keep dreaming Nacho. We got a great staff in place with great facilities and a great talent base to build from. Best of all we got a 52 year old coach. Saban is 64 and Miles is 62, so they won't be around for long.

The nightmare scenario is that Sumlin just gets annoyed and takes the Auburn job, returning back to AL. It would be like what Saban did when he took a crap on LSU. He would have deep recruiting ties in LA and TX with the extended connections in FL and GA that the school's geography gives them.

We'd regret losing for the next decade just like many of us regret losing RC and hiring Dennis Franchione from Alabama. We got too many dumb asses who always ruin things for this school with knee jerk reactions.

Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 4:45 pm to
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The nightmare scenario is that Sumlin just gets annoyed and takes the Auburn job, returning back to AL.


That would be a nightmare scenario, for Auburn.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3008 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 4:50 pm to
I feel like some people live in an alternate world regarding Sumlin.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3008 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 4:51 pm to
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That would be a nightmare scenario, for Auburn.


Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3008 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 4:55 pm to
A coach who can't control his staff or players, can't recruit his own state, and can't keep his team from fading each November would totally be our worst nightmare
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 5:11 pm to
I'm sure Chavis and Mazzone know more about football than you.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60198 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 5:18 pm to
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The reality has and always will be that Sumlin is much more likely to leave A&M than we get rid of him. Keep dreaming Nacho. We got a great staff in place with great facilities and a great talent base to build from. Best of all we got a 52 year old coach. Saban is 64 and Miles is 62, so they won't be around for long.

The nightmare scenario is that Sumlin just gets annoyed and takes the Auburn job, returning back to AL. It would be like what Saban did when he took a crap on LSU. He would have deep recruiting ties in LA and TX with the extended connections in FL and GA that the school's geography gives them.

We'd regret losing for the next decade just like many of us regret losing RC and hiring Dennis Franchione from Alabama. We got too many dumb asses who always ruin things for this school with knee jerk reactions.


I don't understand why we are still acting like this dude is an actual A&M fan
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3008 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 5:33 pm to
Is he not? I guess that would explain a lot
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60198 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 5:39 pm to
I haven't thought so since he started posting but most have disagreed with me
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