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re: Haters Said UT Didn't Have A Chance In Hell.......
Posted on 2/8/14 at 4:07 pm to BigOrangeBri
Posted on 2/8/14 at 4:07 pm to BigOrangeBri
UT was all about quantity > quality which was necessary due to the lack of success over the past few years. Sad to see what's happened to what used to be the pride of Knoxville. It's time to retool that whole program. When you are able to offer immediate starting time at nearly every position the recruits will flock.
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 4:23 pm to Urban OhiO
Go to a little-10 board... Ohio state is the SEC's bitch...
Posted on 2/8/14 at 4:30 pm to TheCheshireHog
The top-20 recruits are only integrated into the rankings lol... All these people crying saying Tennessee's class is only top-10 because of QUANTITY need to learn how the rankings work.
Just like the UGA guy claiming their class is better than TN's lol... While it's on par it is in NO WAY better. In fact, i'd take TN's class over uga's.
Just like the UGA guy claiming their class is better than TN's lol... While it's on par it is in NO WAY better. In fact, i'd take TN's class over uga's.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 4:34 pm to Nguyening
What school in TX couldn't put together a great class?
You really are a hating homer. Anyone that tries to downplay the great class TN has is just mad TN is on the come up. Anyone who calls a two 5* ans sixteen 4* class not a great haul is in denial. Not to mention more than half of the 3* are as close as you could get to not being 4*. TN is also already looking for aanother top 2015 class.
You really are a hating homer. Anyone that tries to downplay the great class TN has is just mad TN is on the come up. Anyone who calls a two 5* ans sixteen 4* class not a great haul is in denial. Not to mention more than half of the 3* are as close as you could get to not being 4*. TN is also already looking for aanother top 2015 class.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 5:56 pm to MC5601
Again....like I said
I added the points for both Tennessee and LSUs top 20 commits.
Tennessee= 117.3 for an average of 5.865
LSU= 117.1 for an average of 5.855
Just look at the numbers. It's really that simple. UTs class is not quantity over quality. I don't know why that's so hard for the idiots on here to grasp
Posted on 2/8/14 at 6:00 pm to Fat Hampster 420
Fat Hampster 420
Finally, someone that gets it. Thank you. It's like I've been playin cards with my brothers kids or something.
Finally, someone that gets it. Thank you. It's like I've been playin cards with my brothers kids or something.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 6:14 pm to BigOrangeBri
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1. Kelly has stated he would not have went to UT if Dooley was there. 2. Hurd had not been contacted and also has said he wouldn't have came to UT if Dooley was there
Link then please. I do not mind being wrong. I am sure Dooley being in the hot seat all season may have worried Hurd a bit, but Hurd grew up a UT fan and once UT got a solid HC he was going to UT especially UT was selling him on RB. The reason he dropped UA before Dooley was fired because UA was recruiting him as an athlete.
Kelly's parents would of had him at UT no matter what.
Again though link.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 6:16 pm to madmaxvol
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That is complete B.S. to say that Doolely inherited more talent than Saban
You might want to read better. Never once said that. I said Saban inherited a mess with a group of undisciplined players. That Jones did not have that head ache because Dooley, if nothing else, cleaned house and got rid of the trouble makers. All Jones had to do was bring in talent. Again you may want to read before posting next time.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 6:28 pm to TideWarrior
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Just look at the numbers. It's really that simple. UTs class is not quantity over quality. I don't know why that's so hard for the idiots on here to grasp
Some people just don't understand that quality > quantity. I don't know whats so hard to figure out.
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 6:49 pm to MC5601
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Some people just don't understand that quality > quantity. I don't know whats so hard to figure out.
dude, our top 20 recruits are more highly rated than your top twenty recruits, you are f-ing stupid
Posted on 2/8/14 at 7:09 pm to TideWarrior
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Haters Said UT Didn't Have A Chance In Hell....... quote: 1. Kelly has stated he would not have went to UT if Dooley was there. 2. Hurd had not been contacted and also has said he wouldn't have came to UT if Dooley was there Link then please. I do not mind being wrong. I am sure Dooley being in the hot seat all season may have worried Hurd a bit, but Hurd grew up a UT fan and once UT got a solid HC he was going to UT especially UT was selling him on RB. The reason he dropped UA before Dooley was fired because UA was recruiting him as an athlete. Kelly's parents would of had him at UT no matter what. Again though link.
This is from Brent Hubbs war room on VQ..........
While to outside observers the theme of this class may be the overall talent and the ability to grab the best instate players, that certainly wasn't the case when Butch Jones took over as the Vols had to make major comebacks with almost every instate player they were involved with, along with several other newcomers.
Starting with Jalen Hurd, as many know, the Vols weren't even a real option until Jones convinced him to take an unofficial visit to a basketball game and after teams like Florida and Alabama being major factors Hurd took the leap of faith and joined the Vols' class. It's not unfathomable to think that Hurd would have been at Ohio State had Jones not turned around that recruitment.
Tennessee's other five-star signee was similar in that the Vols never really led until the very end for Josh Malone. In fact, Malone told several this past summer that the Vols will receive more of a courtesy visit in the fall as he didn't plan to be a Vol at all. But, a huge push by Jones and particularly assistant coach Tommy Thigpen ended up convincing Malone he should be a Vol. We're told Malone also received a call from a certain NFL MVP. Of course, that call had to be made a few times because the very private and unassuming Malone didn't pick up his phone the first couple of times a blocked number popped up. Someone then texted him he really needed to answer that next call, and Malone did.
Rashaan Gaulden called Vanderbilt his leader last spring but Thigpen went to work on him as well.
One more big comeback for the Vols has to be Derrell Scott. The North Carolina running back and his family had visited South Carolina half a dozen times, Columbia, S.C., was closer to home and the Gamecocks offered him the chance to play with his best friend, Pharoh Cooper.
Most counted him as a Gamecock lock last summer. But, Tennessee running back coach Robert Gillespie saw Scott last spring (when he coincidentally met Kendall Vickers that led to his signing with the Vols) and that begin a very important relationship.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 7:16 pm to BigOrangeBri
From Patrick Brown of the Chattanooga times free press..........
Though he goes to school 10 miles from Tennessee's campus and his father was an All-America defensive end at Tennessee in 1992 and a first-round NFL draft pack in 1993, Kelly admitted he was not a lock to play for the Vols. Despite his ties to the Vols, older sister Clarke "was in my ear," Kelly said, to pick Alabama, where she is a cheerleader.
He also had scholarship offers from Florida State, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, Ohio State, Southern California, Clemson and others, but the arrival of Butch Jones and his staff to Tennessee, Kelly said, made a "huge difference" in his recruitment.
"If he wasn't here," he said. "I probably wouldn't be a commit. I wasn't a big fan of Coach [Derek] Dooley. I was looking to go elsewhere. I was really thinking about going to Alabama. The Tennessee fans probably don't want to hear that, but I'm a Vol, 100 percent."
See you couldn't be more wrong
Though he goes to school 10 miles from Tennessee's campus and his father was an All-America defensive end at Tennessee in 1992 and a first-round NFL draft pack in 1993, Kelly admitted he was not a lock to play for the Vols. Despite his ties to the Vols, older sister Clarke "was in my ear," Kelly said, to pick Alabama, where she is a cheerleader.
He also had scholarship offers from Florida State, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, Ohio State, Southern California, Clemson and others, but the arrival of Butch Jones and his staff to Tennessee, Kelly said, made a "huge difference" in his recruitment.
"If he wasn't here," he said. "I probably wouldn't be a commit. I wasn't a big fan of Coach [Derek] Dooley. I was looking to go elsewhere. I was really thinking about going to Alabama. The Tennessee fans probably don't want to hear that, but I'm a Vol, 100 percent."
See you couldn't be more wrong
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 7:29 pm to TideWarrior
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Link then please. I do not mind being wrong. I am sure Dooley being in the hot seat all season may have worried Hurd a bit, but Hurd grew up a UT fan and once UT got a solid HC he was going to UT especially UT was selling him on RB. The reason he dropped UA before Dooley was fired because UA was recruiting him as an athlete.
Kelly's parents would of had him at UT no matter what.
Again though link.
You're wrong. Dooley shutout UT's lettermen, insulted HS coaches all over the state and N. GA and to the point where they went so far as to voice their complaints and utterly unload on him in the press after he left (he didn't bother recruiting the tri-state area), and treated people like crap. The fact that he also sucked meant no one would push their kid there, even Dillon Bates' father Bill Bates wouldn't have pushed Dillon to UT had Dooley still been there.
Todd Kelly Jr.:
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He also had scholarship offers from Florida State, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, Ohio State, Southern California, Clemson and others, but the arrival of Butch Jones and his staff to Tennessee, Kelly said, made a "huge difference" in his recruitment.
"If he wasn't here," he said. "I probably wouldn't be a commit. I wasn't a big fan of Coach [Derek] Dooley. I was looking to go elsewhere. I was really thinking about going to Alabama. The Tennessee fans probably don't want to hear that, but I'm a Vol, 100 percent."
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Hurd:
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“I really wanted to go to UT,” Hurd told The Tennessean. “Last year, they weren’t in such a good position for me to go there, but with Coach Jones and the new staff, I think it’s the best place for me to go.”
LINK
Hurd had also said he didn't have a good relationship with Dooley and his staff.
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 7:30 pm to BigOrangeBri
does anyone bother to hate tennessee anymore?
Posted on 2/8/14 at 7:34 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Again....like I said
I added the points for both Tennessee and LSUs top 20 commits.
Tennessee= 117.3 for an average of 5.865
LSU= 117.1 for an average of 5.855
Just look at the numbers. It's really that simple. UTs class is not quantity over quality. I don't know why that's so hard for the idiots on here to grasp
Wow look at the nice manipulated numbers, yippee for you. Now lets get real, do a little research.
Take your entire 33 person class & compare it to LSU's entire 23 person class this year plus their top 10 from last year, or if your patient enough compare it to their first 10 signees for next year & see where you stand. Don't look good? OK how about Alabama, Texas A&M, Florida, Georgia, etc.
In other words, nice little accomplishment with the giant class but nowhere close to the upper echelon recruit for recruit.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 7:47 pm to MannyG
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Take your entire 33 person class...
We don't have a 33 person class. If you can't even get that right I'm doubtful that you'll be able to grasp the reasons recruiting services only count a top number. Averages are funny things -- it's far easier to score 4.0 by taking 1-2 classes than by taking 6.
With football classes the best way to judge a class is via the top 20-25 and including in other factors like top100/300, pos rank, etc. and averaging the formula out. All 4* stars are not created equally not even when they're the same grade of 4* -- that's why the services use formulas to more accurately judge a class. Raw scores are interesting but they don't tell the tale.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:04 pm to MannyG
You just can't be this stupid. I didn't manipulate anything. One last time, all I did was take LSUs 20 highest ranked players for this class and added the points given for each player. That total came to 117.1
I then added UTs 20 best players. That total came to 117.3.
So, yes it definitely is upper echelon.
I will not respond to anymore idiots ITT
I then added UTs 20 best players. That total came to 117.3.
So, yes it definitely is upper echelon.
I will not respond to anymore idiots ITT
Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:08 pm to BigOrangeBri
From Hubbs as well in Sept 2012 when Hurd visited UT.
"It was great. I got a chance to go in the locker room before the game and have a brief conversation with coach Derek Dooley and the offensive coordinator," Hurd said. "It was a good time and I enjoyed the atmosphere and it was a great game."
"The main thing they told me was that they wanted me running the ball for the University of Tennessee," Hurd said.
"Just the atmosphere. I've always grown up a UT fan and just coming into the game and the UT-Florida experience was a really great time," Hurd offered.
"It was great. I got a chance to go in the locker room before the game and have a brief conversation with coach Derek Dooley and the offensive coordinator," Hurd said. "It was a good time and I enjoyed the atmosphere and it was a great game."
"The main thing they told me was that they wanted me running the ball for the University of Tennessee," Hurd said.
"Just the atmosphere. I've always grown up a UT fan and just coming into the game and the UT-Florida experience was a really great time," Hurd offered.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:09 pm to BigOrangeBri
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I will not respond to anymore idiots ITT
i really dont understand what he is trying to argue against anymore
Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:13 pm to TideWarrior
Ok, kids always have positive things to say after a visit. The fact is Hurd would not be a Vol if fooley is still the coach.
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