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re: Haters Said UT Didn't Have A Chance In Hell.......

Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:59 am to
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:59 am to
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I don't recall anyone even commenting on Tennessee's class because yall are irrelevant


Then you didn't get on this board during the summer. And sick burn
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 12:06 pm to
HAHAHAHA. lsunv called me a name, I guess the truth hurts. A pretty sophomoric effort.Truly written like someone still in high school. But please keep hating, this thread was just for posters like you.

Again....like I said
I added the points for both Tennessee and LSUs top 20 commits.

Tennessee= 117.3 for an average of 5.865
LSU= 117.1 for an average of 5.855

Consider yourself PWND. Thanks for playing

Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 12:11 pm to
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Sort how I feel because about the only time UT's class came up on here was when a UT fan started a thread about them one time being ranked #1 when UT already had like 25 recruits committed and everyone else just a handful. Besides that not much of a mention.

I give Jones credit great class but in all reality the high ranking even Dooley would have gotten this year. Kelly and Bates along with a few others were all legacies that would have been at UT even if Dooley stayed. Hurd is from TN and was already leaning to UT under Dooley but only waited to commit because of the uncertainty of Dooley being fired and waiting for the replacement. So Jones really did not do anything to get those guys. Malone for whatever reason in the end seem to not get the attention by the time he committed from other schools except UT. Mosley really had no other option except UT in the end. It great to see UT keep the instate kids but Jones did not do much for the top part of the class coming in. He did do a great job for the rest of the class.



There is soooo much wrong with this post. You really have no clue what you're talking about. I mean that.

1. Kelly has stated he would not have went to UT if Dooley was there.
2. Hurd had not been contacted and also has said he wouldn't have came to UT if Dooley was there.
3. Absolutely no chance Dooley lands Malone.
4. Many expected Mosley to land at Ole Miss, and Ole Miss wanted him.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9057 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 12:44 pm to
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i meant if Urban Meyer was coaching that cincy team

#readingcomprehension


If Urban Meyer was the coach, they would have been a better team lol.. If Urban only got to be the coach of that game, then maybe tennessee keeps it close, but if urban had been coach all year, even without getting a recruiting class I think they win that game.
Posted by LSUNV
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 12:50 pm to
You are hanging and arguing the most stupid thing I have ever seen. Every single media outlet in the world has LSU number 2 but somehow some douche on a message board has come up with a formula that makes case for UT .
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 1:25 pm to
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You are hanging and arguing the most stupid thing I have ever seen. Every single media outlet in the world has LSU number 2 but somehow some douche on a message board has come up with a formula that makes case for UT .


You can't be serious. I've never said our class is better than yalls. I was simply pointing out (to a DIFFERENT poster) that anyone that says our class is all about quantity and not quality is misinformed. The numbers I put together just prove that point. I agree, LSU is the #2 class, as it is ranked that way across the board.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 1:27 pm to
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has come up with a formula that makes case for UT .


And I didnt "come up with a formula." I simply added the points given to each teams top 20 recruits. Not rocketscience
Posted by LSUNV
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 1:29 pm to
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And I didnt "come up with a formula." I simply added the points given to each teams top 20 recruits. Not rocketscience


It must be because the numbers don't add up being we only signed 23 players
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 1:58 pm to
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It must be because the numbers don't add up being we only signed 23 players


never go full retard
Posted by LSUNV
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Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:00 pm to
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never go full retard


Apparently some people know nothing else
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:02 pm to
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It must be because the numbers don't add up being we only signed 23 players


I don't know how else to spell it out for you. I added the the points for each top 20 commit. If you can't understand that then I recommend you stop eating paint chips.
Posted by LSUNV
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:13 pm to
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I added the the points for each top 20 commit


Like I said we have four consensus composite 5 stars so your formula is flawed. I don't know how else to get you to understand

And don't even get me started on the top 20 thing being as we signed a top recruit at their position like for instance Trey Quinn being top ten at WR
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 2:16 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:21 pm to
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Like I said we have four consensus composite 5 stars so your formula is flawed. I don't know how else to get you to understand


Yes, and each of those recruits is given points that make them either a 5* or 4* thats what I added up.

quote:

And don't even get me started on the top 20 thing being as we signed a top recruit at their position like for instance Trey Quinn being top ten at WR



You're not understanding me. I added up each classes best 20 recruits. Meaning I added the 20 highest ranked players for each class
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:34 pm to
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You're not understanding me. I added up each classes best 20 recruits. Meaning I added the 20 highest ranked players for each class


LSU guy:

Posted by SL Tiger
Houston
Member since May 2007
2223 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:16 pm to
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I did for you pal.


Did you ride a short bus to school? Are you really trying to say that UT's top 20 is better than LSU's? Have you seen any service out there that ranks UT higher than LSU? Link??
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:01 pm to
Tennessee's class ranking is based on quantity moreso than quality (though there are definitely some very good players in it).

The reality though is that it is almost mathematically impossible to sign over 30 players and not be in the top-15 using 247's formula. You'd literally have to sign almost entirely 2-3 stars.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Dplymkr88
VA
Member since Aug 2012
1091 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:16 pm to
Tennessee fans have gone full retard...
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 2/8/14 at 12:31 am to
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Tennessee fans have gone full retard...


Only in the sense that a few have chosen to argue with idiots and it's impossible to win an argument with an idiot.

However, it appears those arguing with the idiots are the only ones who know how the recruiting formulas work, they could articulae their points better but judging by the ignorance regarding how recruits and teams are ranked I'm not sure it would help much - some refuse to learn and others have proven themselves plain dumb.

The constant repetition that 'you're only ranked so high cuz you signed moar' makes me laugh every time I read it because the number of recruits actually detracted from the composite on 247 (it lowers our score rather than raises it) - a raw composite is like a GPA one grade has the power to drag down the average so if your coach takes a 2-3* with more potential than a 4* 247 doesn't adjust for it. OTHER services do adjust for it, Scout, Rivals, and ESPN (which 247 uses to arrive at their individual rankings and by extension their team composites make no such adjustments). OTHER services also adjust for team variances in class, position rankings, the differences in players (top100 recruits etc. are worth more than another recruit of the same ranking because all 4 stars are NOT created equal), and have player cutoffs as well.

The reason we're ranked lower on 247 than other services is 1. 247 still has our class size wrong and the extra member they count is lower ranked thus dragging down our score 2. Rivals doesn't award bonus points for JUCOs or Preps. Cutoffs are at a teams 20 (Rivals) and top 25 (Scout) for team rankings. 3. Rivals doesn't count Mixon because he's an unintentional gray shirt (sat out after things fell through at Nebraska but didn't play JUCO either) and they simply don't know what to do with him since their standard guidelines don't apply. This is also why Rivals shows 31 committs while Scout shows 32 (Scout counts Mixon and Mixon is worth some good points). While 247 still has 33 because they haven't removed Dews who as stated above is gray shirting. ESPN doesn't know what the frick is going on and is listing walkons!

247's composite is based upon Scout, Rivals, and ESPN and the nature of our class having a few curveballs like Mixon combined with ESPN being lost and 247 not updating is LOWERING the composite on 247.

Folks really do need to check out the point system on Rivals and Scout use to get a grasp on how recruits rated and how much they count. Even if you use 247, Rivals and Scout are determining half or more of the scores they use to arrive at their own composite.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 2/8/14 at 12:59 pm to
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Did you ride a short bus to school? Are you really trying to say that UT's top 20 is better than LSU's? Have you seen any service out there that ranks UT higher than LSU? Link??


he literally just did the math and yes, UT's top 20 are better than LSU's top twenty by a fraction of a point. You must be stupid or something if you dont understand basic algebra.

I really don't know what else to say
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:48 pm to
I''m not saying UTs class is better, but when you add up the top players for each team it does indicate that. Go back and look at previous posts you f@cking nitwit.
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