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re: A&m junior day updates?

Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:58 pm to
The best defense is a good offense. We keep LSU defending their borders, that is less time that they can come into Texas and actively recruit.

If A&M can lock down Houston in the future, that will lessen LSU's influence in Texas.
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1367 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:02 pm to
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The best defense is a good offense.


And thus the problem with TA&M, on the field and recruiting, is proudly stated.

Im sure Willis and Noil had a good time. They are 16-17yo kids who got a weekend get-a-way. Something they can talk about on twitter and instagram for a week. But make no mistake that with Frank on the job we are not "defending our borders". 2014 will be a fun year for us in LA and TX.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12372 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:10 pm to
I'll never say never on anything to do with Gerald Willis but he is a heavy LSU lean atm. TAM is considered to be the biggest competition.

Noil is a completely different story. He'll be at LSU unless Frank Wilson gets hired at a major school. Family 1st in this instance.

Paris will be a Tiger soon. Doesn't mean it's over but it's gonna be hard to pull him from LSU's grasp

Brown is heavily in LSU's corner. If not for Bealoved's recruitment and the family situation he'd likely be committed by now. If Bealoved chooses TAM(LSU is said to be leading as of yesterday) then it's a major fight but chances are that Tony still ends up in BR.

As for LSU getting shut out in Texas, while true, the details speak a very different story.

Guys we went after at some point

JT Barrett-we wanted him but ended up with 2 better
Adam Taylor-if we wanted we had
Dontre Wilson-wanted him so bad that we offered at CB
Kyrion Parker-one that TAM can boast about but our staff was neither suprised nor upset that he bolted
RSJ-TAM beat us straight up
Derrick Griffen-we could've stole him but his grades aren't good enough
Kent Perkins-didn't last long
Darius James-wish we had a better shot than we did
Tyler Tezeno-we passed
Prevot-we passed
Ashawn Robinson-tried early but never pushed when he opened up
Deoundrei Davis-offered but never got a chance to press
Reggie Chevis-we offered as a FB
Jordan M-offered as a FB
Eldridge Massington-we passed
Kameron Miles-we passed
Justin Manning-we never pushed because he was too flippant

2 guys in TAM's class we could've had if we tried are Golden and Wilson. We passed on the opportunity to recruit either

The down year in Texas had more to do with LSU not taking any kids from Texas than the TAM/SEC thing. TAM beat us straight up for RSJ and Parker and that happens. Let's discuss this again next Feb when LSU takes 3-4 kids it wants from Texas. TAM and Texas will beat LSU for some kids we want but the difference is that Texas and TAM have to beat us for Texas kids. LSU can be happy and considered successful just by winning 3-4 of the battles because we have such a great state to get talent from. In Feb let's compare kids LSU wanted from Texas and kids TAM wanted from LA and then put the percentages together aand have a better idea of how things really went(percentages because LSU likely offers more Texas kids than TAM does LA kids because of pure volume of kids in Texas compared to LA). Either way I'm impressed with TAM's recruiting and look forward to the battles in the future
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21800 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:26 pm to
I am too... I went to school back in the days when LSU was an automatic win on the schedule



Always enjoyed our rivalry with LSU
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4234 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:51 pm to
Hot damn,

Sumlin's got another school trending towards "Mack didn't offer" territory.

Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10839 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 8:25 pm to
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Sumlin's got another school trending towards "Mack didn't offer" territory.


Feels good doesn't it?
Posted by AGBQ99
Cedar Park, TX
Member since Dec 2011
640 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 8:46 pm to
Haaaaaa!!! Swamp kitties sound just like the sips prior to their fall ........ Love it!!!!
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85790 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

The best defense is a good offense. We keep LSU defending their borders, that is less time that they can come into Texas and actively recruit. If A&M can lock down Houston in the future, that will lessen LSU's influence in Texas.


Not one word of that is by any means likely. Try beating us before talking shite about us "falling."
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 11:15 pm to
lsufanva,

I have to give you credit. That was some real effort into convincing yourself that LSU simply didn't need anyone from Texas this year. Yep, Louisiana is so loaded with talent you don't need to bother with the monster next door. It's amazing how much you guys do sound like Mack though, he always would throw out the "didn't offer" line to every blue chip he couldn't get because he was famous for never officially offering anyone that wouldn't take it. I know one year they had 22 official offers and 20 commits.

History also isn't on your side to think A&M won't win some battles in LA. We got a Heisman winner from Louisiana. We also got the son of your only Heisman winner to come to A&M and he was absolutely a blue chip talent and was later a 1st Round Draft Pick.

Will LSU come in and pick and choose in Texas while shutting A&M out in LA this year? Maybe, but maybe not. Realistically it will depend on how the season goes for both schools. Just don't act as though LSU suddenly decided that they didn't want all but a couple of guys from Texas after getting a minimum of 3 Texas players over the last decade, it's just laughable.
Posted by Raoul_Duke
Denton, TX
Member since Nov 2012
235 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 11:22 pm to
LSU guys,

Hypothetically, how would you feel about a split of two to aTm and two to lsu out of these 4?

Tony brown
Ed Paris
Speed noil
Gerald Willis

Stranger things have happened...
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85790 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 11:23 pm to
Your state was down talent wise. Get the frick over it. Notice we recruited quite well OOS this year. You really had only a few we were interested in. Keep in mind our class was nearly full before the season started.

Next year it's filled top to bottom.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14510 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 11:23 pm to
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LSU simply didn't need anyone from Texas this year


LSU most definitely did not. Only guy who LSU missed out on was RSJ, so we offered other tall receivers and got commits there. LSU isn't a school to offer a ton though, so that will likely be stated from here on out. I still wouldn't count on a lot of the top 2014 LA kids going to TAMU. Will likely finish 2nd for most of them.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14510 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 11:25 pm to
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Hypothetically, how would you feel about a split of two to aTm and two to lsu out of these 4?



It'd be a disappointment considering that all four are believed to be LSU leans. Most would have to expect LSU gets 3/4 out of that bunch.

LSU would really have to tank or some of the coaching staff would have move around for it to split, imo.
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 11:26 pm
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7214 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 1:04 am to
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2 guys in TAM's class we could've had if we tried are Golden and Wilson. We passed on the opportunity to recruit either

You might have got Wilson, but Golden declined an invitation to your little offer camp. That kid never set foot on your campus, and that was his choice.

LSU might well pull Paris and Brown. But three things: 1) Class is insanely deep at S so who GAF; 2) Paris is a La. transplant, so spare us the "we got the best Texan" rhetoric; and 3) it would represent an undeniable anomaly--merely a consequence of having the right connections at the right time. There is no LSU buzz in this state. These two are literally the only kids who really GAF.

You won't be getting any other top Texas kids. And this time next year we'll hear all about how you didn't really want Harvey or Scott or any of the others you offered in Texas.
This post was edited on 1/29/13 at 1:12 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 1:29 am to
Two of the Texas guys LSU is after are Louisiana transplants, one of whom grew up ten minutes from the campus.
Posted by ezrulz
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2011
1332 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 8:36 am to
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Just don't act as though LSU suddenly decided that they didn't want all but a couple of guys from Texas after getting a minimum of 3 Texas players over the last decade, it's just laughable.
RSJ was the priority from the beginning. Anyone else in TX was further down on the big board. LSU has never relied on the top players in tx to supplement their class. We've had better results with guys that were a little bit more under the radar, i.e. Ciron Black, Brockers and Brandon Lafell. Toliver, Shepard and Loston are the only 5star guys we've gotten in the last 5 years. In 2014, LSU willl likely get the #1 player in tx, 2 of the top 5, and as many as 4 of the top 10. That doesn't mean there won't be guys in the 20-30 range who end up having better careers, but LSU getting Brown, Paris and anyone else in the top ten would be their best TX haul ever. It's the kind of class that will more than make up for the "misses" in 2013. The Johnny football phenomena has been incredible, but LSU is an NFL factory.
This post was edited on 1/29/13 at 8:39 am
Posted by oldschoolgreats
Member since Nov 2012
1902 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 10:53 am to
a&m guys, you are correct that a&m will win many texas battles in the future that it lost in the past. but texas is a huge state and no way a&m can shut LSU out. baylor, ohio state (2), okie state, usc, oregon, bama etc. all have at least one quality texas recruit this year. we would easily replace one of those schools every year. a&m could have a great texas class and LSU still get a couple of quality texas guys. the state is too big and deep to talk about shutting out any school.
Posted by BigAggie06
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
952 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 3:51 pm to
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baylor


I highly doubt that you will A) get as many Texas recruits as Baylor or B) want any of the recruits Baylor gets.

quote:

ohio state (2)


OSU has only one Texas recruited that we were after, Mike Mitchell, them getting him is not so much a credit to OSU recruiting as much as he just didn't want to stay in state, that was pretty well publicized. As for their QB recruit JT Barrett ... never heard of him. Kohl Stewart and Kenny Hill both committed relatively early. Kenny Hill and Barrett are both Dual Threat QBs, Rivals has Hill ranked higher, 247 has Barrett ... obviously Sumlin had Hill higher too ... Ohio State will never be a major threat in Texas recruiting and they don't need to be.

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okie state

Second tier guys, not a single guy we seriously were after.

quote:

usc

Their one Texas commit Torodney Prevot was on campus this weekend and is expected to announce his decision to attend A&M on signing day.

quote:

oregon

Dontre Wilson ... we would take him, they always get one ore two good skill players ... but this year we are not really in need of RB talent as we have our starter returning plus 2 5* and couple of other decent options. Not a big defeat for us.

quote:

bama

Maurice Smith ... another one we would take but ruled us out very early.

If you want to take any of those schools place ... well that won't bother us any more as it will be a significant step back form what you guys were doing in both quantity and quality.

Posted by BigAggie06
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
952 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 3:56 pm to
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but LSU getting Brown, Paris and anyone else in the top ten would be their best TX haul ever.


I will bet you money you don't land Brown and Paris ... if I had to guess I would guess we land Brown and you guys land Paris.

As for the other top 10 guys ... well A&M already has 2 on the 247 top 10 in the state list (Scott, Harvey) ... we are the favorite to land KD Cannon.

Solomon Thomas will be interesting to watch, we supposedly made a good impression this weekend and you guys aren't in his top 5 as far as I know..

We are also in good with Myles Garrett ... I am starting to wonder if you guys will land 2 in the Texas top 10 let alone 4.

(Oh and Paris will not be the consensus #1 player in the state like RSJ was this year, it is just that 247 are the only ones with complete rankings out yet)
Posted by oldschoolgreats
Member since Nov 2012
1902 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:00 pm to
all I was saying is that in ANY given year there will be several schools that get quality texas recruits. therefore, no way you can say LSU will be shut out of texas. no way. we may take guys like mills or hunter that a&m doesn't want. johnny football was a lower ranked guy and so was the de at a&m. plenty of talent and LSU will get some. doesn't always have to be a head to head battle with a&m.
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