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re: Would you put Spurrier in the same class as Bryant, Neyland, Saban?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:27 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:27 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Bryant is in a class by himself as it relates to the SEC. 14 SEC titles as a head coach to go along with his 6 national championships.
Everyone else lines up in the tiers below him.
Everyone else lines up in the tiers below him.
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:32 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Bryant vs. Tennessee: 12-10-2 all time.
Spurrier vs. Tennessee: 14-10 all time.
Both better than Tennesee.
Spurrier vs. Tennessee: 14-10 all time.
Both better than Tennesee.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:34 pm to Eric Clapton
damn his time at sc has hurt the record a bit
won the big games of the 90's regularly
spurrier is top 5 all time in the sec if you wanna try to name 5 better go for it
won the big games of the 90's regularly
spurrier is top 5 all time in the sec if you wanna try to name 5 better go for it
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:35 pm to Eric Clapton
Bryant vs Neyland 0-5-2
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:36 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I think Spurrier is without a doubt one of the top 10 coaches in SEC history. He turned Florida into a powerhouse by throwing the ball around, which was unheard of in the SEC at that time and took South Carolina to heights they never dreamed of. Plus, he's the GOAT quote in league history. Deep down I love me some Spurrier and it's a shame he didn't go to Tennessee.
But to answer your question, no, Spurrier is not at the level of Bear, Neyland or Saban.
But to answer your question, no, Spurrier is not at the level of Bear, Neyland or Saban.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:37 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Would you put Spurrier in the same class as Bryant, Neyland, Saban? by Vols&Shaft83
I wouldn't put Spurrier or Neyland in with Saban and Bryant simply due to each having only one championship.
#3. Bryant 323 wins, 6 MNCs
#13. Spurrier 226 wins, 1 MNC
#29 Saban 182 wins, 4 MNCs
#35 Neyland 173 wins, 1 MNC
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:37 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Bryant vs Neyland 0-5-2
Neyland was in his prime while Bryant was at his second ever head coaching job at Kentucky.
The 70s version of Bryant would beat Neyland at any point in his career.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:37 pm to NorthGAVol
Bear Bryant at Neyland's retirement banquet:
“Thank God the old guy finally quit"
“Thank God the old guy finally quit"
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:38 pm to Vols&Shaft83
He would be in the same category as those coaches you mentioned. Not 'the greatest,' but up there with the best.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:40 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Neyland has 4, whether you recognize them or not. He also took 5 years off, during the prime of his career to serve in WWII.
So tuck that Tennessee hate boner back in your pants, bitch.
So tuck that Tennessee hate boner back in your pants, bitch.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:42 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Spurrier is right next to Bryant and ahead of Neyland
If he'd stayed at Florida, this would probably be true. He didn't, so I'm going with "no".
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:45 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Neyland has 4, whether you recognize them or not.
He has only one consensus national championship.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:47 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Neyland has 4
I'll give you two, AP and UPI for 1951.
Spurrier also has a press and a coaches championship, however, both in 1996.
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So tuck that Tennessee hate boner back in your pants, bitch.
Y'all sure get bent out of shape when someone doesn't love your team.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:25 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Yes. Under the parameters Neyland and the Bear worked in Spurrier ends with at least two and possibly more national titles.
Additionally, Spurrier faced a difficulty no other SEC did- not only did he have to navigate the SEC schedule he had to get past an FSU team in the most middle of perhaps the most dominant run in college football history- 14 consecutive top 5 finishes (87-0), regardless of your opinion on their schedule it's impressive - - that likely cost Florida other title shots (ironically, SOS's last season, the year FSU fell off is one of the times it cost Florida a national title, frick Darnell Dockett, always wanted someone to chop block that cheating fricks knees).
Despite these obstacles he posted the most dominant decade in modern SEC history winning 6 SEC titles and losing 2 more.
Dayenu,
Then USC, where he takes a moribund program and becomes the best coach in their history.
Hell, how many SEC coaches are the winningest and arguably the best (Meyer vs Spurrier at Florida) at two separate schools much less essentially permanently altered the power balance of the SEC (pre- Spurrier Florida was at best the 6th SEC program a middle of the pack school; post - Spurrier Florida is at worst top 3 and arguably 1 or 1A)
Additionally, Spurrier faced a difficulty no other SEC did- not only did he have to navigate the SEC schedule he had to get past an FSU team in the most middle of perhaps the most dominant run in college football history- 14 consecutive top 5 finishes (87-0), regardless of your opinion on their schedule it's impressive - - that likely cost Florida other title shots (ironically, SOS's last season, the year FSU fell off is one of the times it cost Florida a national title, frick Darnell Dockett, always wanted someone to chop block that cheating fricks knees).
Despite these obstacles he posted the most dominant decade in modern SEC history winning 6 SEC titles and losing 2 more.
Dayenu,
Then USC, where he takes a moribund program and becomes the best coach in their history.
Hell, how many SEC coaches are the winningest and arguably the best (Meyer vs Spurrier at Florida) at two separate schools much less essentially permanently altered the power balance of the SEC (pre- Spurrier Florida was at best the 6th SEC program a middle of the pack school; post - Spurrier Florida is at worst top 3 and arguably 1 or 1A)
Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:24 pm to Alt26
yup, neyland coached in a much easier era when a handful of schools monopolized talent and exposure.
i also rank saban ahead of bryant. can you imagine saban coaching in an era where he could have an even bigger talent advantage?
i don't think we would look at bryant the same way if he could only have 85 on scholarship.
i also rank saban ahead of bryant. can you imagine saban coaching in an era where he could have an even bigger talent advantage?
i don't think we would look at bryant the same way if he could only have 85 on scholarship.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:33 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
neyland had one consensus natty. 1951. that's it. no other years did he win ap and/or upi/coaches.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:40 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Absolutely!
He has the most wins as a coach at 2 different SEC schools.
Maybe I am older than most folks here, but Florida was crap in the 80s and early 90s until Spurrier. They had sanctions from the "galen hall" era and were an afterthought to Georgia.
Spurrier not only brought them back to prominence, he still has people talking about those years. They absolutely destroyed folks, and they didn't always have the best line-talent. The hype around Florida that made it an attractive job started with Spurrier.
Mind you, this was during an era where scholarship limits were in place, and unlike Bear Bryant and others, teams couldn't sign 100+ folks to their squad just to hoard talent.
More than that, what he has done at USC has been great as well. He has moved expectation levels from barely making a bowl game, to having multiple 10+ win seasons. arse-kickin-chiken fans have always been great but under Spurrier then now have more to cheer about.
Perhaps he could have capitalized more at USC, but with certain injuries etc sometimes you have bad luck.
The way he has changed the culture there (in terms of winning) is monumental.
The concept of "it's easy to win at Florida" started during Spurrier's tenure.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:41 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Bryant vs Neyland 0-5-2
Bryant at Kentucky vs Tennessee is not a fair comparison when you consider the strength of the progra.........nevermind. Good point.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 11:57 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Not Bryant and Saban but definitely Neyland. They both won the same amount of AP/UPI titles and conference titles. Neyland really wet the bed in bowls too.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 12:16 am to Vols&Shaft83
I wouldn't put him in the same class as Neyland. That guy was able to win at Tennessee. Now that's impressive.
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