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re: Would you put Spurrier in the same class as Bryant, Neyland, Saban?
Posted on 9/4/15 at 12:23 am to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 9/4/15 at 12:23 am to Vols&Shaft83
Spurrier is not on the same level as Bryant and Saban but way above Neyland. Neyland never win a meaningful Bowl and outside of Tennessee history has forgotten him.
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Posted on 9/4/15 at 1:14 am to northalabamacracker
Saban'll drop to tier 2 after dropping 4 ball games this year.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 1:22 am to BallstotheWesleyWall
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I wouldn't put him in the same class as Neyland. That guy was able to win at Tennessee. Now that's impressive.
Eh it was a different Era schools like Minnesota, Ole Miss and Tennessee were national powers not 3rd or 4th tier programs.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 6:38 am to Vols&Shaft83
Saban has back to back SECCG wins? I didn't know that.
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 6:39 am
Posted on 9/4/15 at 6:51 am to JETigER
In the SEC, Neyland and Bryant are clearly in a class by themselves.
All of you who are saying it was "easier" back then are crazy.
Back then, Southern football was an afterthought to the "real" football being played at places like:
Michigan - USC - Washington - and even the Yales and Harvards of the world.
For those guys to put Southern teams in the discussion; when almost all of the "media" (who decided on things like where teams were ranked) were concentrated in the northeast and west coast was damned impressive
Saban and urban Myer are in a class by themselves when it comes to modern coaches. Pete Carrol deserves to be in that grouping with those 2 as well (2 MNC in 9 years)
Spurrier would be in a tier with UGA's Wally Butts & Vince Dooley.
All of you who are saying it was "easier" back then are crazy.
Back then, Southern football was an afterthought to the "real" football being played at places like:
Michigan - USC - Washington - and even the Yales and Harvards of the world.
For those guys to put Southern teams in the discussion; when almost all of the "media" (who decided on things like where teams were ranked) were concentrated in the northeast and west coast was damned impressive
Saban and urban Myer are in a class by themselves when it comes to modern coaches. Pete Carrol deserves to be in that grouping with those 2 as well (2 MNC in 9 years)
Spurrier would be in a tier with UGA's Wally Butts & Vince Dooley.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 6:54 am to JETigER
Spurrier is a better football coach, Saban is a better recruiter. They were/are miles above their peers at what they do well in their respective primes.
Had Spurrier stayed at Florida his resume would be on par. Since he didn't he won't be as historically relevant but it doesn't change the fact he's the best pure football coach of the generation. If anybody thinks Saban or Meyer or whoever else would have had any more success at South Carolina than Spurrier has you're crazy.
Had Spurrier stayed at Florida his resume would be on par. Since he didn't he won't be as historically relevant but it doesn't change the fact he's the best pure football coach of the generation. If anybody thinks Saban or Meyer or whoever else would have had any more success at South Carolina than Spurrier has you're crazy.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 6:57 am to RandySavage
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Had Spurrier stayed at Florida his resume would be on par. Since he didn't he won't be as historically relevant but it doesn't change the fact he's the best pure football coach of the generation. If anybody thinks Saban or Meyer or whoever else would have had any more success at South Carolina than Spurrier has you're crazy.
agree
Posted on 9/4/15 at 6:58 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Neyland
Why does everyone keep misspelling "Disneyland"?
Posted on 9/4/15 at 6:59 am to RandySavage
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Had Spurrier stayed at Florida his resume would be on par. Since he didn't he won't be as historically relevant but it doesn't change the fact he's the best pure football coach of the generation. If anybody thinks Saban or Meyer or whoever else would have had any more success at South Carolina than Spurrier has you're crazy.
I can agree with this.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 7:10 am to dcbl
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All of you saying it was easier back then are crazy
Sorry,it was in fact easier back then.No scholarship limitations (per se),you could pretty much run off which ever player pissed you off that particular practice,no conference championship game and you played 6 conference games and several times there ended up being ties for the championship.
Hell, before 1981 Auburn and Florida had exactly ONE SECC between them. Not exactly the big 6 back then.
I guess you could say it may have been harder to win an AP national championship due to the bias in the Northeast press corp.
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 7:16 am
Posted on 9/4/15 at 7:15 am to RandySavage
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Had Spurrier stayed at Florida his resume would be on par. Since he didn't he won't be as historically relevant but it doesn't change the fact he's the best pure football coach of the generation. If anybody thinks Saban or Meyer or whoever else would have had any more success at South Carolina than Spurrier has you're crazy.
Agreed. And Spurrier ran over this conference in the 90s, capturing six SEC titles (and 8 division titles) in the span of a decade. And the man won the ACC at Duke. Let me repeat--he won the ACC at Duke.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 7:15 am to northalabamacracker
quote:absolutely this.
Spurrier is not on the same level as Bryant and Saban but way above Neyland. Neyland never win a meaningful Bowl and outside of Tennessee history has forgotten him.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 7:16 am to Vols&Shaft83
Yes as to Saban and Bear. No as to Neyland--he's in the Mark Richt category of "lots of wins but little hard ware"
Posted on 9/4/15 at 7:38 am to FourThreeForty
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Spurrier only won one. And that championship, like Alabama 2011, was a lucky mulligan.
I think Spurrier is the 4th best in SEC history behind each of the 3 in the OP only because of National championships, but come on, to call 52-20 lucky is a joke.
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 7:39 am
Posted on 9/4/15 at 7:50 am to northalabamacracker
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Neyland never win a meaningful Bowl and outside of Tennessee history has forgotten him.
Bowls weren't as important back then. Heck a lot of the players didn't even play in them. National champs were decided after the season, bowls were an afterthought. And to say history has forgotten Neyland is ignorant. Guy was a mastermind and an innovator. He was the pioneer of the speed over strength strategy. He was the first coach to implement a number of things still in use today, such as sideline telephones, game film to study opponents, lightweight pads and tearaway jerseys. I leave you with the quote below.
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"People think I'm the greatest damn coach in the world," Bear Bryant once said. "But Neyland taught me everything I know."
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 7:57 am
Posted on 9/4/15 at 8:18 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Spurrier is right next to Bryant
Different era but whoever in this thread said Spurrier is a better x's and o's coach than Bryant is just stupid. Bryant coached at Bama 25 years. He had great success for 10 years then had a few bad seasons. What did he do? He reinvented Bama's offense and went on to dominate the 70's. I'm sure if he was coaching during this era or the era Spurrier coached at Florida he would have done just fine adapting to the current game and winning like he usually did. Spurrier was/is a great coach but to say he is in the same ballpark with a 6 time national champion coach who won 13 SEC titles, is a bit of a stretch.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 8:20 am to madddoggydawg
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Saban'll drop to tier 2 after dropping 4 ball games this year.
Oh your one of those people that think coaches are only as good as their last game.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 8:21 am to dbeck
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Why does everyone keep misspelling "Disneyland"?
Because the Vols live in a fantasy land....
Posted on 9/4/15 at 8:27 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Just heard Clay Travis (I know) say that Spurrier is right next to Bryant and ahead of Neyland, which I think is ridiculous.
He's a Hall of Fame coach, no doubt, but come on.
He is hall of fame no doubt, but if could win a natty before he left USCe then he would be in the same class. He would have turned UF from bottom dweller into SEC and national power and repeated that feat at USCe that puts him in the convo for GOAT IMO.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 10:25 am to dcbl
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In the SEC, Neyland and Bryant are clearly in a class by themselves
Well depends how many of Johnny Vaught's nattys you are counting. Ole Miss claims 3, the SEC I know recognizes at least 1. Either way, Vaught has 6 SEC titles.
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