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re: Worst SEC Coaching Hires in the BCS era

Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:40 am to
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:40 am to
John L was definitely the worst coach, but you can't really call him the worst hire.

For one, he was never intended to remain as head coach for more than one season. Secondly, at the time Petrino was fired, the coaching carousel had stopped turning for the most part. At that point, there really weren't many options.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Garrick McGee wouldve been a better option than John L.



He went 5-19 at UAB and was run out of town. What makes you think he would have made any larger of a difference than John L did? A gut feeling?

Sounds like you just want to shite on Arkansas.

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But my point is, why does he not count? Is it just to make that season forgettable?



Do you understand what the concept of apples-to-apples means?
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 10:47 am
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Sounds like you just want to shite on Arkansas.

I dont want to shite on Arky at all. John L was hired, arky went 4-8. IMO it was the worst SEC corching hire of the BCS era. Its not vindictive, its just my opinion. No reason to get all butthurt.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:49 am to
That's a good point.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:51 am to
quote:

1 Ron Zook (Florida, Illinois)
2 Gene Chizik (Iowa State, Auburn)
3 Tim Brewster (Minnesota)
4 Lane Kiffin (Tennessee, USC)
5 Derek Dooley (Tennessee)
6 Charlie Weis (Notre Dame, Kansas)
7 Mike Stoops (Arizona)
8 John L. Smith (Michigan State, Arkansas)
9 Bill Callahan (Nebraska)
10 Dan Hawkins (Colorado)


Chizik won a title...lol!

John L was the interim coach and I dont think evcer offered the job out right...this list sucks.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:52 am to
quote:

7 Dennis Franchione Texas A&M




FTFY




This would be on the list had A&M been in the SEC. For whatever reason that just didn't work.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:55 am to
Can't put Chiz on that list due to 2010 BCS title.

CAN put Mike Price on that list and, indirectly, Mike Shula (who wouldn't have ever been hired - in MAY no less - if not for the Mike Price hire).
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:57 am to
quote:

1 Ron Zook (Florida, Illinois)
2 Gene Chizik (Iowa State, Auburn)
3 Tim Brewster (Minnesota)
4 Lane Kiffin (Tennessee, USC)
5 Derek Dooley (Tennessee)
6 Charlie Weis (Notre Dame, Kansas)
7 Mike Stoops (Arizona)
8 John L. Smith (Michigan State, Arkansas)
9 Bill Callahan (Nebraska)
10 Dan Hawkins (Colorado)

Here is mine

1 John L. Smith Arkansas
2 Sylvester Croom Mississippi State
3 Derek Dooley Tennessee
4 Ed Orgeron Ole Miss
5 Houston Nutt Ole Miss
6 Ron Zook Florida
7 Dennis Franchione Alabama
8 Lane Kiffin Tennessee
9 Gerry DiNardo LSU
10 Gene Chizik Auburn


Both lists are shite without Fat Bradstard Scott (South Carolina) at #1.

Name another coach who sent any SEC team into an 0-21 nose dive.

Brad Scott is a piece of shite, worst hire in the history of the SEC.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 10:58 am
Posted by Gladius Veritas
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since May 2012
13189 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:59 am to
quote:

John L. Smith Arkansas


you can't even count this one
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:03 am to
He was hired pre-BCS
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Name another coach who sent any SEC team into an 0-21 nose dive. 

Brad Scott is a piece of shite, worst hire in the history of the SEC.

Won't argue that, but he was a pre-BCS hire.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:07 am to
1. Mike Price-Bama
2. Charlie Weis-ND
3. Bill Callahan-Neb
4. Ed Ogeron-OM
5. Rich Rod-Michigan only
6. Ty Willingham-ND
7. Mike Sherman-A&M
8. Mario Cristobal-FIU
9. Dan Hawkins-CU
10.Croom-MSU
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30819 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:08 am to
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2 Gene Chizik (Iowa State, Auburn)




Look, by the end Gene couldn't get out of here fast enough but prob 90% of coaches in America would glady suffer a 2012 type season in exchange for 14-0 against the toughest division in college football history.
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5561 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Eta: Glad to see all the backlash supporting Dinardo. I've always thought he didn't get the credit he deserved.


I agree.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73470 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:28 am to
quote:

1 Ron Zook (Florida, Illinois)
2 Gene Chizik (Iowa State, Auburn)
3 Tim Brewster (Minnesota)
4 Lane Kiffin (Tennessee, USC)
5 Derek Dooley (Tennessee)
6 Charlie Weis (Notre Dame, Kansas)
7 Mike Stoops (Arizona)
8 John L. Smith (Michigan State, Arkansas)
9 Bill Callahan (Nebraska)
10 Dan Hawkins (Colorado)


One of these isn't like the others.
Posted by Gladius Veritas
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since May 2012
13189 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Mario Cristobal-FIU


How was it a bad hire? More wins than FIU is used to, then he had one bad season and they freak out and fire him. Then they turn around and have an even worse season

He's a good coach
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:29 am to
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28285 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:31 am to
I don't get the Chiz thing. He had a few mediocre years, one absolutely horrible one, but he also held up the Crystal. Was it lightning in a bottle? Who the frick cares. Also, I am not sure we have Gus as our HC if not for Coach Chiz bringing him in. There is just no way Chiz is a top ten worst hire in the BCS era.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:32 am to
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How was it a bad hire? More wins than FIU is used to, then he had one bad season and they freak out and fire him. Then they turn around and have an even worse season


27-47 in 6 years. Granted he was only thier second coach but he left the program in the same shape it was in and is famous(using this term loosely) for a very ugly fight.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98920 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:34 am to
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I know no one cares about UK, but Joker Phillips is borderline retarded. He was a horrific hire. They actually had something brewing in Lexington.


He was OC under Brooks. That's the reason they're hired him to begin with. Easy to look back now and say it was a shite hire when they were trying to maintain consistency. No one expected it to fall off that quickly under him.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 11:36 am
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