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re: Will the Rant be offended if MSU is #4 Tuesday Night?

Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:57 am to
Posted by ErnestTBassmaster
Bird Whistle, Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
2583 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:57 am to
No problem with this. But I am sick of MSU posters acting as if Saturday was a close game. Alabama, as it has since Saban arrived, went conservative once they had a lead on a good team.
Posted by CrimsonChin
the gutter.
Member since Feb 2010
5857 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:58 am to
I hope the committee does the right thing here. State at #4.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40091 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:59 am to
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Yeah, yall had your chance and lost.

Putting them back in the top 4 could mean a rematch with Alabama, can you believe that??



sees bait

quote:

This isnt golf, you dont get mulligans.


this is rich coming from a Bama fan
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30592 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:16 am to
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It would suck for MSU because I think that State and Bama are the 2 best teams in the country (at this point).
Gosh! That sounds very similar to Alabama/LSU a few years ago. I guess that you felt the same way about Alabama then, huh?...for what it's worth, I think that State should make the playoffs if they win out, even if Alabama has to play an extra game (SECC game), and then has to play State in the playoffs...but that's just me.
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:18 am to
No. They are a very good team.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40091 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Gosh! That sounds very similar to Alabama/LSU a few years ago. I guess that you felt the same way about Alabama then, huh?...for what it's worth,


You can't compare 2011 and 2014 because there are 2 different systems. In 2011 (prior to 1/9) IMO Alabama was deserving of being #3 not #2.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25176 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:49 am to
I suspect that MSU is going to need some help. They have a top 4 team... they don't have top 4 recognition though. If Oregon doesn't collapse down the home stretch they are in. The same for FSU. TCU and tOSU are going to be fumbling it out for the last spot and State would have a very hard time moving past two conference champions.

So, either someone in that group of four teams has to lose or Bama has to drop another SEC game this season. Which means, with only one SEC game for the Tide left, Auburn has to knock off Bama for State to get into the Championship game.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:54 am to
I'll be offended if they aren't.

One loss at Alabama with their resume should still be in the top 4.
Posted by ROLLDAT33
Mobile
Member since Feb 2012
223 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:56 am to
Or Auburn has to beat Alabama. I am a Bama fan but still think AU gets up for that one. It is not a foregone conclusion that Bama wins that game.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30592 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:57 am to
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You can't compare 2011 and 2014 because there are 2 different systems. In 2011 (prior to 1/9) IMO Alabama was deserving of being #3 not #2.
Well the voters thought that they should have been #2...and it looks like they were totally correct.
...and yes, the 2 scenarios are very, very similar, and if Alabama has to play in the SECCG, while State sits then it'll be scary similar.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Yeah, yall had your chance and lost.

Putting them back in the top 4 could mean a rematch with Alabama, can you believe that??

This isnt golf, you dont get mulligans.




Well done, sir. Way to be self-aware as a fan.

Back to topic, it is a good point that State has the best loss ON THE ROAD to what will be a top 2 team if Bama wins out.

If State wins out, they have the strongest case of the 1 loss teams, in my opinion under the current set up.

Even though I am a State graduate and fan, I still think that only Conference champions should go to the playoff until they expand to 6 or 8 teams. Take the top 4 conference champs. If they go to 6 teams, take the 5 conference champs plus one at-large team. That is the only really fair way to do it.

You should not win the National Championship if you cannot win your division or conference. It makes no sense.
Posted by americanrealism
Smoking an 8th in the multiverse
Member since Nov 2012
1515 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:11 am to
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$$$$, nobody (ESPN, advertising ppl, etc) wants to see a 1 loss non SEC champ MSU over a 1 loss Ohio State. It sucks but that is the way the cookie will crumble.


This. They deserve #4 right now, but if Bama wins out I don't think there's any way they let MSU into the final four over other 1-loss conference champs.
Posted by circlerebel17
Member since Oct 2014
473 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:12 am to
No y'all would still deserve it
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18150 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:25 am to
MSU's only decent win is over Auburn and we suck. On what basis should they be top 4. Your OOC will end up keeping you out of the final poll, unless there are 2 loss champions. Pull against OSU.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42392 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:25 am to
If State wins out it's going to be an interesting committee discussion to say the least. First real test of the new system. Bad thing for MSU is they lack a real quality non conference game. MSU needs Ole Miss to beat Ark. Would also help if Bama lost to Auburn or in SEC title game which would not shock me.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105397 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:26 am to
No, but I am betting you will be offended when they are not in the top 4.
Posted by Skeeterpop
Member since Oct 2014
421 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:28 am to
Is it ok to be the Super Bowl, NBA or World Series champs without winning your division? Is it ok for you to win the College World Series or Final Four without winning your own division? If all these are accepted and no one ever fusses about them, why should college football be any different? Its about finding and crowning the best team. Not the best Conference Winner. Get over this and accept college football should be like all other sports college and pro.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46375 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:31 am to
To appease the anti-SEC crowd State will be ranked 5th IMO. Auburn and LSU wins not looking so good anymore. They still should be ranked up there but such is the way of the new world.
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:34 am to
Not at all. Ole Miss stayed in the top 4 after losing at LSU. I expect State to be at number 4 Tuesday night.

It will likely be 1. Alabama. 2. Oregon. 3. FSU. 4. Mississippi State.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105397 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:43 am to
I agree with you and at the end of the day MSU will not be in the top 4 for the playoffs unless Auburn pulls a win out of their arse over Bama which looks highly unlikely. MSU would still need to win out.
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