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re: Will Derrick Henry return to school? Ex-NFL scout gives 4th round grade on Henry

Posted on 12/13/15 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 4:42 pm to
Tiger Rant - Home of the whiny bitches.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64532 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 4:43 pm to
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His performance against an NFL caliber defense like Bama's

sure
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 4:44 pm to
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constant good offensive line play.


If you have watched them play then you would know the opposite is true. They have been good at times but they have been wildly inconsistent this year. Seriously why do all of you think this OL is comparable to past Bama OL? 98th in the nation in TFLs given up doesn't make them elite at all.
Henry will probably go in the late 2nd to 3rd rounds. I don't see how that's bad. Multiple late round RB picks do well in the league. Also if he does go in the 4th you can't really call him a bust.
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes Gambler
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:01 pm to
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Seriously why do all of you think this OL is comparable to past Bama OL? 98th in the nation in TFLs given up doesn't make them elite at all.

Which is why I'm a little surprised by the spot of the game vs Sparty. Two things MSU does well is defend the run and get to the QB. Bama defends the run much better than they defend the pass. And Cook gets rid of the ball quickly. Should be an interesting matchup.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:05 pm to
Why he's retired?
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:12 pm to
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Which is why I'm a little surprised by the spot of the game vs Sparty. Two things MSU does well is defend the run and get to the QB. Bama defends the run much better than they defend the pass. And Cook gets rid of the ball quickly. Should be an interesting matchup.



It'll probably fall on Coker, but he should be up to the test. He's gelling lately.

More interesting is how many sacks Oklahoma has given up this year. It's near the 40s in 12 games played. Against the team that leads CFB in sacks, that could spell a long night for Mayfield. More impressive is the things he has done with all that pressure though, so all credit to him. It'll be a test of tone vs. Oklahoma (if Alabama gets there), and if the defense doesn't get a few 3 and outs from Oklahoma, they're going to roll with a bunch of wideouts and leave room to run.
Posted by Taurus 357
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:18 pm to
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Coker, but he should be up to the test. He's gelling lately

Yeah, I gotta say... He did pretty well outside of a couple bad throws against UF. He made some big passes late in the game to keep momentum for Bama.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:25 pm to
Is Stewart TD pass was a bit concerning. Good result, but there was no way that wasn't just a ton of luck throwing into triple coverage. But he's moving the sticks, and is getting the hang of rolling out and not getting sacked.
Posted by Tacoma Tiger
Tacoma, WA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:26 pm to
Dude just broke the SEC single-season rushing record and won the Heisman. What could he possibly do in another year of college that would improve his draft stock? He's a downhill runner with great top end speed, and he would be exactly the same player next year.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:27 pm to
He would be foolish to do that. He will go sooner than that to a team that needs a RB.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:39 pm to
Mid to late 3rd round is my guess. I view his RB stock as on par with Tre Mason from a couple of years ago. Both ran for about the same number of yards on similar carries (Henry 100+ more yards on 20+ more carries). Both were durable workhouse backs. Similar speed with Mason being a bit faster (4.4 combine) and Henry being a bit bigger.

Mid to late 3rd round and will share carries with someone in the NFL.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4068 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 6:05 pm to
The way he's being used, he'd be an idiot to stay. He's not going to have a long career in the NFL as it is till he's injured and retired. He'd better go get it while he can. And would he really want to come out at the same time Fournette does? I don't think so.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 6:06 pm to
He said in his speech that he would want to come back
Posted by KiffinsVisor
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 6:24 pm to
Haha, that's why he is an EX NFL scout
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 6:25 pm to
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He said in his speech that he would want to come back



He said he'd see them here next year. He didn't say he'd be back specifically. He could also mean as a past Heisman winner or on TV.
Posted by SABANrulz1
Glencoe, AL.
Member since Jul 2014
329 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 6:26 pm to
That's not correct Mel Kiper said it was possible that Henry would go late 1st rd he said that rbs don't usually go in the 1st, He said he would not have taken UGAs rb in the 1st, He said Henry would go in the 2nd round
Posted by smuphy72
Bham
Member since Nov 2009
3449 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 6:36 pm to
He'll have about the same type career as Trent Richardson did.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 6:56 pm to
He has no reason to come back to college. I can't see him being a 4th round pick . Not sure their are very many draft eligible backs better. He should be higher in this years draft th n next with Chubbs and LF going pro next year.
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
2917 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 7:06 pm to
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Dude just broke the SEC single-season rushing record and won the Heisman. What could he possibly do in another year of college that would improve his draft stock? He's a downhill runner with great top end speed, and he would be exactly the same player next year.


Exactly... after winning the Heisman, Camp, Maxwell, and Walker awards - plus the all time SEC yards record - there's not much more he can do for accomplishments.

He could however do some skills development. The biggest area he could improve (or perhaps just prove himself) would be in pass catching ability. He's already improved his pass protection blocking significantly.

But, in our offensive scheme, I just don't see that type of opportunity presenting itself. Would love to see him stay, but realistically, he should be gone.
Posted by TouchdownAlabama
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
1748 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 7:08 pm to
I mean, he's accomplished so much in this season alone, why not go out on a high note, and plus, the NFL is the goal for all of these players. I don't see why he would stay another year at Alabama if he can go into the NFL.
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