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re: Will Auburn/FSU 2013 have a similar outcome as Bama/Miami 1992?

Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by N97883
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:40 pm to
Oh wow, guess who replaced Missouri as the 14th best rush defense in the country after the championship games were finished... just guess...

Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:41 pm to
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Their line (especially their ends) were regarded for their pass rush. There was huge questions about their ability to stop the run.

This is actually true. Steckel struggles against teams like Auburn. We gave up almost as many rushing yards to Navy a few years ago in a bowl game.
Posted by rocketc
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:42 pm to
Mr Miyagi must be smoking crack. I can't hardly debate here because half the posts are trolls but the facts are that the ACC-Atlantic conference is one peg above the AAC.

If you chart Auburn's opponents and FSU's opponents based on adjusted data for strength of schedule this is what you get:


Still on paper FSU is a better team, by a little. But by a tiny margin compared with any team FSU played this year.

Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:42 pm to
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I've watched four FSU games and they are a very good football team, but you acting as if Auburn has zero chance to win

I'd give them a 10% shot. They've proven to be the luckiest team in a long time.

But no, giving them zero chance would not be nearly as stupid as predicting a Bama/Miami '92 type AU blowout.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:44 pm to
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We know AU can bet a good team or two

We also know they can lose to a good (but not great) team.
Posted by masseylaw
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:46 pm to
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Notre Dame squeaked by in many games last year. FSU has blown out everyone they've played. These are guys recruited by SEC teams. They are not Notre Dame guys.


Notre Dame's final strength of schedule ranking was 8th (NCAA's ranking). FSU's is 38th, and AU's is 1st (teamrankings.com).

Comparing FSU to Notre Dame is too generous. The strength of schedule lesson is what the SEC has been teaching the nation since AU got hosed in 2004.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:46 pm to
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Nor did they in the first half of the Duke game.

They didn't score a zillion points in the first half, but Duke did NOTHING.

They got off one FG attempt after a turnover, and that was it.

This game was an absolute blowout.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:50 pm to
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Yes, that's what someone who is cheering for an ACC team would say.

I'm a Bama fan, and a fan of SEC football through and through, but I'm no delusional idiot that thinks that UF beating OSU years back has any bearing on this game whatsoever.

This FSU team is very similar to what we've seen from recent top SEC teams.
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Maybe FSU is this years Notre Dame.

Keep telling yourself that. FWIW, that's the same line of thought that retard boy who said Arkansas would have run the table with FSU's record believes.
This post was edited on 12/15/13 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:50 pm to
Auburn is literally terrible in every aspect of the game that doesn't deal with running the football. They are 109th in passing offense, 66th in rushing defense, 102nd in passing defense and 90th in total defense. All of the previous SEC champions had to deal with tough schedules too and they were never that bad statistically. Auburn is a mediocre team that has gotten lucky all year. If they somehow miraculously beat Florida State, they'll go down as the worst national champion of all-time.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:51 pm to
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Notre Dame's final strength of schedule ranking was 8th (NCAA's ranking). FSU's is 38th, and AU's is 1st (teamrankings.com).

You're mixing and matching ranking methodologies. It ends up being meaningless.

Eta: Last year's Alabama had the 33rd ranked SOS.
This post was edited on 12/15/13 at 12:56 pm
Posted by rocketc
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:54 pm to
The fact is there are more 'Bama trolls dick riding FSU.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:55 pm to
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Auburn's defense does the job at pivotal times.

They were awesome against UGA
Posted by N97883
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:56 pm to
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Auburn is literally terrible in every aspect of the game that doesn't deal with running the football. They are 109th in passing offense, 66th in rushing defense, 102nd in passing defense and 90th in total defense. All of the previous SEC champions had to deal with tough schedules too and they were never that bad statistically. Auburn is a mediocre team that has gotten lucky all year. If they somehow miraculously beat Florida State, they'll go down as the worst national champion of all-time.


And yet they're 12-1 and beat the undefeated two time national champions.

You do realize what passing offense is based on right? # of yards per game. Why does Auburn need to pass if they've got the #1 rushing attack in the country?

And 38th in scoring defense. You may gain yards but you won't score. They have the 19th best red zone defense and keep in mind they play in the SEC not the ACC.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:57 pm to
That could be. It doesn't really change the argument.
Posted by N97883
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:57 pm to


And that's how that game ended.

Pivotal.

This post was edited on 12/15/13 at 12:59 pm
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:57 pm to
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This from the guy who brings you this thread:

It makes me feel special that I am in your head.

You'll think of me when your team is getting thrashed.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:59 pm to
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And 38th in scoring defense. You may gain yards but you won't score.


Hai.
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8063 posts
Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:59 pm to
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It makes me feel special that I am in your head.

You'll think of me when your team is getting thrashed.


You need to go pop another pill and watch Nashville again.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:59 pm to
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More depth, a couple breaks, and Duke could have won.

LULZ
Jimbo was criticized for running up the score.
Posted by masseylaw
Member since Nov 2012
142 posts
Posted on 12/15/13 at 1:00 pm to
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You're mixing and matching ranking methodologies.


Then you tell me what you think is appropriate - with citations. Your answer will lead to the same conclusion.
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