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Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:19 am to TreyAnastasio
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nope
Yup. As well as UGA.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:22 am to Beer Bryant
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Auburn ratted on themselves to keep from paying Chizik's buyout
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:23 am to rangers911
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Alabama media
Yahoo isn't in Alabama. ESPN isn't either
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UGA, MSU, OM, UA, and AU are being looked at
Looked at and investigate are two different things. MSU and AU are only ones being investigated. Try and hope as you might, you're not going to drag others (besides MSU who has rolled on you guys how UT did Bama in the Means investigation - when Ark , MSU, UT, UK, and UA were being looked at, but only one was truly investigated) into your misery.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:24 am to rangers911
The Alabama media has nothing to do with the current story. The notion that Alabama has control of the national media's coverage of Auburn is a delusional paranoid fantasy.
The answer to your question is that they're not being singled out. They were the only school in receipt of a forged transcript for a player they then admitted into school and onto the practice field. Somehow they ended up with the forged transcript after the high school had already caught and corrected the fabricated grades in May. There's a reason the guidance counselors lost their jobs, and that's why this is a story.
Any Auburn writer that says other wise is in full spin mode, regardless of whether or not this ever results in any sanctions.
The answer to your question is that they're not being singled out. They were the only school in receipt of a forged transcript for a player they then admitted into school and onto the practice field. Somehow they ended up with the forged transcript after the high school had already caught and corrected the fabricated grades in May. There's a reason the guidance counselors lost their jobs, and that's why this is a story.
Any Auburn writer that says other wise is in full spin mode, regardless of whether or not this ever results in any sanctions.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:30 am to rangers911
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:31 am to TideSatchel
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The Alabama media has nothing to do with the current story. The notion that Alabama has control of the national media's coverage of Auburn is a delusional paranoid fantasy.
The answer to your question is that they're not being singled out. They were the only school in receipt of a forged transcript for a player they then admitted into school and onto the practice field. Somehow they ended up with the forged transcript after the high school had already caught and corrected the fabricated grades in May. There's a reason the guidance counselors lost their jobs, and that's why this is a story.
Any Auburn writer that says other wise is in full spin mode, regardless of whether or not this ever results in any sanctions.
Why was it not reported at the NCAA was questioning Trent Richardson then? They came down to investigate that. The NCAA has been all over to investigate recruiting in Georgia done by Clemson, Auburn and Alabama at Georgia's request. At the request of UT Alabama, Auburn and Georgia are being investigated in Memphis.
The Memphis stuff is mostly due to 7 on 7 stuff that the NCAA wants to crack down on, not necessarily due to other issues.
The grades have been looked into at AU is in the clear last I've heard. Also Auburn was the one that reported the transcript issue because we had copies with different GPAs.
Also if you think AU gets a fair shake in the Alabama media you are nuts. Much of the state media are flat out against anything Auburn, some do it due to their readers others do it due to that's what the editor wants.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:32 am to LSUcam
For the same reason Alabama was singled out and made an example of during the Albert Means situation. Schools like Tennessee, Ole Miss, Georgia, Arkansas, etc were heavily involved in that situation and all of them got away with it. The NCAA overlooked many violations in particular with Tennessee at that time so they could concentrate on drilling Alabama. The NCAA with some justification had it out for Alabama at that time. The same thing could be happening to Auburn this time around.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:33 am to TideSatchel
Can you tell me the difference from the NCAA investigating the D. Paige recruitment and this?
How often do we see stories about Auburn that are never proven?
Alabama, Auburn and others have friends in the media.
How often do we see stories about Auburn that are never proven?
Alabama, Auburn and others have friends in the media.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:36 am to rangers911
I think its cute how much you want to drag other folks down with you
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:38 am to Govt Tide
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For the same reason Alabama was singled out and made an example of during the Albert Means situation. Schools like Tennessee, Ole Miss, Georgia, Arkansas, etc were heavily involved in that situation and all of them got away with it. The NCAA overlooked many violations in particular with Tennessee at that time so they could concentrate on drilling Alabama. The NCAA with some justification had it out for Alabama at that time. The same thing could be happening to Auburn this time around.
Regime Change, the new NCAA regime at that point felt Alabama had gotten away with too much and wanted to drill them. Same as with USC. Don't get me wrong the punishment was deserved but other schools should have gotten more as well.
It is one of the reason's the NCAA will be dead in a few years, the fact it selectively enforces rules and has harsh penalties for some teams and light for others.
Will be interesting to see how the new organization runs. Emmert is pissing off a lot of teams right now and pushing a lot of teams away from the NCAA. Sometimes beware what you wish.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:40 am to allin2010
Transcripts?
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:46 am to crimsonian
quote:. Notice that this even gives the name..... Has Alabama been cleared?
Transcripts?
Sources close to the situation have confirmed to the News Journal that NCAA associate director of enforcement Renee Gomila will be in Pensacola this week to interview Washington officials about Paige. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing NCAA investigation.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:46 am to allin2010
The difference is that when Alabama has had anywhere close to as much smoke as Auburn has had lately they've been nailed by the NCAA. The idea pitched on ITAT and other Auburn boards that the NCAA is in cahoots with Alabama to ignore blatant Alabama cheating is laughable given how aggressively the NCAA has penalized Alabama in the last 15+ years. If anything, Auburn received way more benefit of the doubt from the NCAA during the latest investigation. You had 4 players publically admit to be paid on HBO for cryin out loud and nothing happened.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:47 am to allin2010
quote:Sure. No one has confirmed anything illegal happened in Paige's recruitment. We know for a fact that a guidance counselor changed two of Jovon Robinson's grades before May of his senior year. We know that one of the teacher's caught the error before the transctipt was sent to the NCAA and apparently Notre Dame and corrected the transcript before it was sent to those two institutions. We know that a second guidance counselor then changed the grades a second time, and we know that Auburn was the school that then used the forged transcript - which was never sent to the NCAA and apparently not to Notre Dame either - to get him into school and let him on the practice field. We also know that after Auburn called the school in June to find out why their copy of the transcript was different than the NCAA's, that the high school immediately ran an audit and verified that a guidance counselor had made the change after they had already corrected it. And that somehow after all of that, Auburn still let the kid into school and on the practice field in Auburn, all while the high school was moving forward on firing the guidance counselors who made the changes. Those are facts; we'll see where they lead. But you'd be hard pressed to frame this as the same thing as the Paige situation. Has anyone been fired over that? Do we have published emails form his high school and the NCAA confirming that someone cheated to get him into school? The answer is no, and that is the difference in the situations.
Can you tell me the difference from the NCAA investigating the D. Paige recruitment and this?
This post was edited on 11/23/12 at 9:49 am
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:47 am to TreyAnastasio
I'm an LSU fan.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:47 am to rangers911
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Regime Change
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:47 am to rangers911
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Much of the state media are flat out against anything Auburn, some do it due to their readers others do it due to that's what the editor wants.
You're delusional.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:51 am to rangers911
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UA are being looked at for recruiting in Memphis.
We learned our lesson in Memphis. That is the one place in the country where I wouldn't mind the NCAA ripping apart with a microscope in regards to Alabama. I would bet my car that we are clean there. No idea about anywhere else, but I am confident at least in that city.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:58 am to TideSatchel
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Sure. No one has confirmed anything illegal happened in Paige's recruitment. We know for a fact that a guidance counselor changed two of Jovon Robinson's grades before May of his senior year. We know that one of the teacher's caught the error before the transctipt was sent to the NCAA and apparently Notre Dame and corrected the transcript before it was sent to those two institutions. We know that a second guidance counselor then changed the grades a second time, and we know that Auburn was the school that then used the forged transcript - which was never sent to the NCAA and apparently not to Notre Dame either - to get him into school and let him on the practice field. We also know that after Auburn called the school in June to find out why their copy of the transcript was different than the NCAA's, that the high school immediately ran an audit and verified that a guidance counselor had made the change after they had already corrected it. And that somehow after all of that, Auburn still let the kid into school and on the practice field in Auburn, all while the high school was moving forward on firing the guidance counselors who made the changes. Those are facts; we'll see where they lead. But you'd be hard pressed to frame this as the same thing as the Paige situation. Has anyone been fired over that? Do we have published emails form his high school and the NCAA confirming that someone cheated to get him into school? The answer is no, and that is the difference in the situations.
So show me in your post were anyone has shown that Auburn did anything wrong... We have a transcript issue, but no connection that Auburn had anything to do about that.
We have school administrators claiming that recruits are funneled to a coach with ties to Alabama and the Hoover grade change. We know this was done by Alabama coaches. We have an ongoing NCAA investigation of an Alabama commitment.
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