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re: Why does University of Alabama have so many out of state students?

Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:50 pm to
University of Texas and Texas A&M only accept the top 10 percent of students so many from Texas choose to go out of state. Arkansas, Oklahoma, Bama, Ole Miss are the most popular choices.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:02 pm to
Seems like Bamas objective is to throw money at rejects from other states.

They pretty much know all the instate kids that are smart and serious about an education are probably heading to AU anyway.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:08 pm to
You don't even try anymore.


It's sad really.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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45656 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:09 pm to
True.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:10 pm to
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People credit Sabah a lot, but Dr. Witt has got to be one of the best unjversity presidents/chancellors to ever hold the title. Guy deserves his own statue.
This is very true. Dr. Witt told the Tuscaloosa business community 10 years ago that UA had a goal of 35,000 enrollment, and they needed to plan accordingly...he didn't lie.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:19 pm to
The out of state enrollment is not sitting well with some State Legislators. There is a lot of taxpayer money going to support the Operational Cost of University to educate kids from TX, GA, FL and MS. These kids then leave the state after they graduate and do not provide any tax base. In the mean time, kids from the state are seeing their tuition increase every year to cover Dr. Witt's dream of the 35K. It is a good model for the University, but a bad model for the state. Look for more articles in al.com on this subject in the near future.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:23 pm to
Thanks, Scarbinsky.


We all eagerly await your hard hitting column.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29219 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

University of Texas and Texas A&M only accept the top 10 percent of students so many from Texas choose to go out of state. Arkansas, Oklahoma, Bama, Ole Miss are the most popular choices.




Not sure about that. I feel like LSU would have more Texas kids than Bama and Ole Miss. I do know a good bit of texas kids at both LSU and ole miss though. They probably all have an even distribution outside of Oklahoma. I know like 1/3 of OU is Dallas metro kids
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:24 pm to
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I mean in Texas the students can go to A&M or UT-Austin.. but would paying out of state be worth it? O.o


The only girl I knew from my high school that went to Alabama was dumb as a post and sure as frick couldn't get in to A&M or tu. I think it would be safe to say that over 85%-90% of the students from the Great State of Texas that chose to spend their collegiate years in Alabama, didn't get in to A&M/tu.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60153 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:26 pm to
Yeah LSU definitely has more than those schools except OU. LSU is probably the top OOS destination for Houston area kids. OU is like 30-40% TX kids I believe, it's pretty crazy
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36372 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:28 pm to
My friend from Nashville goes to Bama. He grew up a Bama fan, his father went to Bama, so he has always wanted to go there.

quote:

They sent acceptance letters to my entire graduating class (atlanta private school) whether you applied or not.

Anyone over 24 ACT got scholarship offers whether you applied or not...


Oddly enough, Bama and Ole Miss sent everyone in my HS friend group pamphlets. I applied and was accepted to both as were most of my friends. A few ended up going to Bama.

My SAT score was an 1150/1600 GPA was a 2.9

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I believe LSU is going to start recruiting out of state students more in the future although not at a 50 in state 50 out of state ratio


I hope they do.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:28 pm to
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The out of state enrollment is not sitting well with some State Legislators.


Nor is it sitting well with some AU fans, apparently
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Thanks, Scarbinsky.


We all eagerly await your hard hitting column.


There has already been a few articles written on the subject. UA has not cooperated with the writers on this subject, I expect it they will go after the administration on their plan.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:29 pm to
Makes me chuckle.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Nor is it sitting well with some AU fans, apparently


AU fans are not concerned with the size of UA, they know bigger is not better. Taxpayers are concerned that they are paying to educate kids from other states over their own citizens.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44018 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

There is a lot of taxpayer money going to support the Operational Cost of University to educate kids from TX, GA, FL and MS. These kids then leave the state after they graduate and do not provide any tax base.

Your university makes the bulk of its money off of endowments, and grants/grad students.
I guarantee you that at an indirect cost share of 45.6% for the university from every grant dollar your grad students receive, your legislators couldn't give a crap from where those students come.

Now if your state doesn't have the means to accommodate its own undergraduate state students, that's a different story. Otherwise, most state universities are more than happy to jack up out-of-state tuition for "foreigners," and take every research dime from out-of-state grad students that they can procure.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 7:39 pm
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:33 pm to
The morons in Montgomery are too busy w/stress over getting popped w/criminal charges to worry much about UA OOS enrollment.



Btw, the majority leader still own the Auburn Network? I heard his name came up in a couple of indictments...
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140464 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:33 pm to
I have about 5 friends that sent kids to Bama from Florida. None of them went for academics. I doubt they could get into UF. 2 of them had to return to Florida because of grades. All went to party.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29219 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Yeah LSU definitely has more than those schools except OU. LSU is probably the top OOS destination for Houston area kids. OU is like 30-40% TX kids I believe, it's pretty crazy



Yeah, our old chancellor pretty much came out and said the 10% rule was the best thing to happen to LSU. We get a lot of smart and well off kids that slipped through the cracks of the 10% bs.

I'm excited to see LSU put more focus on recruiting out of state. I'd like LSU to have a better presence in Dallas. Right now it's mostly Woodlands and Houston kids
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:35 pm to
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The out of state enrollment is not sitting well with some State Legislators. There is a lot of taxpayer money going to support the Operational Cost of University to educate kids from TX, GA, FL and MS. These kids then leave the state after they graduate and do not provide any tax base. In the mean time, kids from the state are seeing their tuition increase every year to cover Dr. Witt's dream of the 35K. It is a good model for the University, but a bad model for the state. Look for more articles in al.com on this subject in the near future.
Obviously the people in Tuscaloosa are happy with it. Their economy is almost recession proof. If Alabama provided the business and professional opportunities that other states offered, there'd be no problem, plus instate students also leave for career opportunities not available in Alabama...besides Witt's in the education business, not the tax collecting business.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 7:39 pm
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