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re: Why Does Everyone Think Ole Miss Fans Are Rich?

Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by Chronic
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:36 pm to
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To claim that the only reason out-of-state students attend Ole Miss is because they did not get into the state universities in their own states


Caltech, MIT and Stanford are not "state universities."

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It may be true of some of them, but that is like saying that the only reason any out-of-state student attends A&M and majors in engineering is because they couldn't get in to MIT or Caltech or Stanford.


I'm pretty sure any Massachusetts or California student enrolled in A&M's engineering school is attending for that exact reason, actually.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:38 pm to
I wasn't trying to "one-up" you or be "right;" I simply wasn't under the assumption that this thread was about medical schools and/or graduate studies.

I have no personal axe to grind with your school.
Good folks abound at Ole Miss.
Peace.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:46 pm to
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Not sure where you are getting that info, but I have mine directly from the Administration. Maybe the discrepancy is due to the fact that the OM medical school and some other professional schools have enrollments that are almost 100% from Mississippi....but less than half the undergraduate students at Ole Miss are from Mississippi. That is just a fact.


According to your own school's website, 60% of the Oxford campus students are from Misssissippi.

Systemwide, its 62%.

By comparison, the University of Arkansas is 65/35, but we don't view it as something to be all uppity about.

LINK /
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Rebellious
Member since Dec 2013
198 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:59 pm to
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According to your own school's website, 60% of the Oxford campus students are from Misssissippi


No, you read it wrong. The 60% applies to undergraduates on ALL campuses, combined. As with the medical center (which is in Jackson, by the way, not in Oxford), the "satellite" commuter campuses have enrollments that consist almost entirely of Mississippi residents.

But fewer than half the undergraduate students on the main campus in Oxford are from Mississippi. Again, I have this directly from the lips of senior administrators at the university, so I know what the facts are.

I was just answering the original question in the thread, not being "uppity"
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:00 pm to
Maybe I did. So the 18,794 enrollment is several campuses, not just Oxford. Like Tupelo and Southhaven? How many students are in Oxford?
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10161 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:03 pm to
Look again, the "Quick Facts" page clearly states that all stats used solely represent the Oxford, MS undergraduate campus
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 5:10 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:06 pm to
Rebellious, I'm not quite certain why you've chosen to die in a ditch over this particular issue, but either the university's website is incorrect, or the administrator with whom you've been talking is misinformed.

quick facts

Location: Oxford, Miss [not satellite campuses]
Total student population: 18,794
60% are from Mississippi
40% are from other states
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:10 pm to

Seems confusing. This link says only 17,142 in Oxford (grad & undergrad) in 2012-13.

LINK

Maybe they throw out whatever #s fit the particular narrative they want at the time. Would fit with the whole "class" concern thing.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9473 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

Why Does Everyone Think Ole Miss Fans Are Rich?


Does anyone actually think this?
Posted by Bought a Snead Jerse
Tennessee
Member since Nov 2013
515 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:11 pm to
We are all rich. Don't hate.
Posted by EC Reb
Member since Sep 2012
647 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:12 pm to
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many of the school's out-of-state 18-year-olds do not attend the school because of it's tree-lined streets; rather, they do attend Old MIss because they are unable to gain admission to their home states' universities.


There are plenty of options in GA and TX for students who didn't get into UT, A&M, GT, or UGA, not to mention closer OOS options.
Posted by Diddles
LA
Member since Apr 2013
6981 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:13 pm to
The first car I ever drove was a Porsche. I hated that car but it's what mom and dad bought for me so I had to live with it
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10161 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:13 pm to
I believe the "quick facts" chart is from 2011-2012 & your link is from 2012-2013
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:14 pm to
Yeah, but that would imply that the Oxford campus lost 1700 students in a year, which is not the case.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:15 pm to
I don't think they're trying to use fuzzy math; I think it's more likely the result of posting numbers from different academic years.

Regardless, there wasn't a swing in 10+% points of the student body with regard to in-state vs. out-of-state admissions. That was my only point--that Rebellious' "Here's the deal: Most students from OM come from out-of-state" isn't actually the deal.
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:15 pm to
It's not a weak academic school, it's merely easy to get in to. Even that is changing because of the rising application rate and the lack of space to get bigger. Last I checked the average admitted freshman GPA has raised 0.3 since 2008.

That said, it is probably because of the large Greek system. It is filled with metro DFW,Atlanta, St. Louis , Memphis, etc. kids that end up at Ole Miss. You'll run into a lot of middle class and below kids outside the Greek system, but inside is filled with lots of students that come from money.

It is the same in most SEC schools that the Greek system is filled with kids from good families but it is perpetuated more due to the stereotypes a lot have of Ole Miss.

By the way, saying a lot of detrimental, not-so-obvious slights then saying it isn't a flame does not abstain you from flame-status.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:17 pm to
Definitely, ECReb.
And I'd be stunned if there wasn't Texas representation--to some degree--at public universities in the other 49, non-TX states.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:21 pm to
That's the case here. Probably 15% or so from Texas. Hell, maybe 20%, mostly DFW.

While we're dispelling myths, Arkansas has a higher percentage of sorority girls than Ole Miss. 36% versus 34%. That's the highest percentaage in the SEC. And with our actual Fayetteville enrollment being over 25,000, that's like 1000 more sorat women on campus than there are in Oxford.

LINK

This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 5:22 pm
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10161 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:28 pm to
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It's not a weak academic school, it's merely easy to get in to


What factors should be used for a calculation then? Forbes doesn't use acceptance numbers in their rankings. They rate Ole Miss

#278 overall
#126 in Research
#61 in the South

LINK

ETA: There are many factors that play a roll in how strong or weak a university is academically.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 5:37 pm
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19451 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:30 pm to
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