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re: Why Did Bear Bryant Wait Seven Years to Integrate Bama Football?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:08 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:08 pm to CapstoneGrad06
However I do think it's true that Bear scheduled the SC game for the primary purpose of stimulating a more pervasive change for integration.
Damn smart move by him. It allowed to avoid getting swept into a political and social discussion. It was a quiet and effective tool to bring about what he needed to effectuate change.
Damn smart move by him. It allowed to avoid getting swept into a political and social discussion. It was a quiet and effective tool to bring about what he needed to effectuate change.
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:09 pm to EKG
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Because all students were mandated to participate in military training/the Corps of Cadets.
You can research women & the military.
Women have been integrated into the military since the 40's or 50's. Why did it it take A&M so long?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:10 pm to DWag215
I don't doubt that the USC game changed perception. Most Alabama folks just dislike the mythology that surrounds the game, when Wilbur Jackson was already on the team.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:10 pm to DWag215
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Mr. Cunningham is famously said to have done more to integrate Alabama in 60 minutes than Martin Luther King Jr. did in 20 years.
That famous quote was from the famous Jerry Claiborne, the famous football coach at the famous University of Kentucky and a former player for Bryant.
At least according to the Showtime documentary Against the Tide.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:12 pm to GoT1de
That's just another example of so much mythology surrounding that game. I'm sure hundreds of links can be provided for both sides.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:13 pm to RollTide1987
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Wallace in his prime > Bryant in his prime.
I don't want to disagree with you, because I'm quite sure your knowledge on Alabama history is more complete than mine.
But I find it hard to believe that anyone in that state was more powerful than Bear Bryant in his prime.
In other words, if you give Bear the power he eventually had in Alabama and align it with the height of Wallace's reign, I think the Bear wins out. Wallace led a state that ranked near dead last in several meaningful categories (literacy, public highways, etc.). He was also vilified by much of the country.
I think one reason Alabama became so proud of football is because it served as an escape from much of the national embarrassment Wallace was responsible for bringing to the state.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:14 pm to RollTide1987
If he hadn't been shot, I believe that he would have dramatically changed the political landscape of that period in time.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:14 pm to DWag215
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Bama didn't bring on black players until 1970.
IIRC, Bear had the power to make that move in '63.
Do you know what it was like in Alabama and Mississippi back then. Not as easy as you think.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:16 pm to bayou2003
See the discussion on pages 3-5.
I recognize immediate integration in '63 wasn't feasible. I do think Bear could have leveraged his power more aggressively beginning in '65, though.
I don't consider him a racist for not doing it, though.
I recognize immediate integration in '63 wasn't feasible. I do think Bear could have leveraged his power more aggressively beginning in '65, though.
I don't consider him a racist for not doing it, though.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:16 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Why were LSU and Mississippi the last two programs to integrate?
Had no idea about LSU.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:19 pm to DWag215
Another way of saying you suck at football but real wordy.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:19 pm to bayou2003
I'm not poking fun, just giving a like response. The fact is, it took every SEC a few years after 1963 to actually integrate. Tennessee was the first in football in 1967. That's not something anyone can be proud of. We're all splitting hairs here. That being said, mythology and misleading facts are bad as well.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:19 pm to nerd guy
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Why did it it take A&M so long?
I suppose we insisted on clutching to the traditional role of military personnel, which didn't account for women.
I don't really know.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:20 pm to nc14
Which post are you responding to?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:21 pm to DWag215
Why is this soo important to you, a Texas shite stirrer?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:21 pm to DWag215
Umm... How many black players played for A&M during Bryant's tenure?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:22 pm to DWag215
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The Bear could do whatever the frick he wanted in that state
If Wallace could say no to the President, he could damn sure say no to Bryant.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:22 pm to DWag215
The one loaded with BS.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:22 pm to rb
It's not important to me.
I thought it was an interesting topic, and I've learned some good history over the last hour or so.
I thought it was an interesting topic, and I've learned some good history over the last hour or so.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 5:22 pm to finestfirst79
Bryant left Texas A&M in 1958. Integration wasn't forced until 1963.
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