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re: Why Did Bear Bryant Wait Seven Years to Integrate Bama Football?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:17 pm to pvilleguru
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:17 pm to pvilleguru
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The game still did nothing to help integrate our team. It was already integrated.
There was not a single black player on the field for Alabama in the 1970 USC-Alabama game. We might have been in the opening stages of integration in '69 and '70 but it wasn't until the mid-70s that we were truly an integrated team.
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:17 pm to DWag215
You are naive. Good try.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:18 pm to RollTide1987
Do people really believe Bryant scheduled a game he planned to lose?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:18 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Only because freshmen couldn't play.
There was not a single black player on the field for Alabama in the 1970 USC-Alabama game
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:18 pm to pvilleguru
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Do people really believe Bryant scheduled a game he planned to lose?
Many of the players and coaches who were on that team believed it. Scott Hunter came out and said it.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:19 pm to nc14
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You are naive. Good try.
Do you really think I'm trolling?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:20 pm to pvilleguru
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Only because freshmen couldn't play.
Despite what you may or may not believe, 2 or 3 black players on a team of 100+ does not make it integrated.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:20 pm to DWag215
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No on in the state of Alabama was going to refuse Bear Bryant.
It was the 60's in the south man. Alot of people didn't even want to use the same toilet as black people. I think you are giving Bear a little more power than he actually had at the time.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:20 pm to pvilleguru
See my post above yours.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:21 pm to RollTide1987
You have to start somewhere.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:21 pm to DWag215
Like a atm champ. Carry on.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:21 pm to DWag215
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IIRC, Bear had the power to make that move in '63.
In 1963 Bear Bryant had only been the head coach for 5 years. He didn't have power to do shite.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:22 pm to DWag215
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Fully aware of his great power and influence, should the Bear have acted faster and more aggressively.
No on in the state of Alabama was going to refuse Bear Bryant.
Can you fricking read? He didnt have the power you are talking about at the time we are discussing. And regardless of how much power he had at alabama, george fricking wallace was the governor of the whole damn state and was effectively the most powerful alabama almuni on earth. He said no.
How many different ways does it need to be said before you will get it through your head. The question does NOT still stand nor was it an interesting one to begin with. You were answered early in the thread. Take your fricking answer and fill some jars with it. Jesus.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:23 pm to pvilleguru
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Only because freshmen couldn't play.
We may have a winner.
From USA Today:
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Cunningham's impact was a myth, because sitting in the stands that night when USC trounced the Tide 42-21 was Wilbur Jackson, a black freshman running back for Alabama. He was not playing because freshmen were ineligible in those days. Bryant had already integrated his team by recruiting Jackson, who was signed Dec. 13, 1969, by assistant coach Pat Dye, who would later be head coach at Auburn.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:24 pm to ThaKaptin
Mother of God you are mad.
The only suggestion I made was that perhaps Bear--knowing his influence--could have done more to change the social norms by leveraging his power.
That's not an unreasonable idea at all.
And regardless of Wallace's title, there wasn't a more powerful man in Alabama at that time than Bear Bryant.
Wallace would have committed political suicide had he publicly renounced what could have been a strong push for integration by Bear Bryant.
Jesus.
The only suggestion I made was that perhaps Bear--knowing his influence--could have done more to change the social norms by leveraging his power.
That's not an unreasonable idea at all.
And regardless of Wallace's title, there wasn't a more powerful man in Alabama at that time than Bear Bryant.
Wallace would have committed political suicide had he publicly renounced what could have been a strong push for integration by Bear Bryant.
Jesus.
This post was edited on 11/17/13 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:26 pm to DWag215
its unreasonable because you were told that he had been trying for 3 years to get it done and had been denied by the governor of the state. This was nothing but a blatant troll thread from the beginning.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:26 pm to DWag215
The power Bryant is perceived to have didn't exist until after the late 1970s. People actually were calling for his head after the average years of 1969 and 1970.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:27 pm to DWag215
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Wallace would have committed political suicide had he publicly renounced what could have been a strong push for integration by Bear Bryant.
Highly doubtful. Take a poll of citizens in Alabama in 1963 and you'll probably get about 75-80% of them responding in favor of segregation.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:29 pm to DWag215
You are speaking of a time early in Bryants career when he was just thought of as a very good coach. This was before Namath, Stabler, the wishbone, and 5 of his 6 national titles. He was still establishing his "power".
Posted on 11/17/13 at 4:30 pm to ThaKaptin
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its unreasonable because you were told that he had been trying for 3 years to get it done and had been denied by the governor of the state.
Even before your little diatribe I acknowledged Bear had been trying when I linked the USA Today article.
But if he didn't begin until 1967 (if you're using 3 years before integration actually happened), then Bear already had 3 championships under bis belt.
Wallace would have committed political suicide had he taken Bear on at that time.
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This was nothing but a blatant troll thread from the beginning.
No, it really wasn't. The worst thing I've as much as implied is that perhaps Bear should've been a little more aggressive. That's it.
Relax.
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