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re: Why Clemson's last two TD's should have been penalties

Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:00 am to
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:00 am to
On the 1st TD, the WR at least faked like he was running a route. On the game winner, dude started crab blocking from the whistle. Pretty obvious imo.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:00 am to
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Textbook definition of a penalty.


agree. The DB can "bump" a receiver within 5 yards of the LOS, he just can't tackle him.
Posted by Tiger97
Member since Feb 2015
438 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:01 am to
When done right a pick play is nothing more than a defender running into an offensive player set up for a short hook. That is exactly what happened on Clemson's first "pick" touchdown. The tight end just picked the perfect spot to set roots.

The ND pick play you referenced ventured into shady/illegal territory because the "blocker" was still moving as the receiver broke away into his pattern.

On the second Clemson "pick" touchdown, it looked like the Alabama defender pulled the blocking receiver into the path of his teammate. Not sure that is exactly what went down, but that's what it looked like.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:01 am to
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On the game winner, dude started crab blocking from the whistle. Pretty obvious imo.



What play were you watching? Because that's basically the opposite of what happened on the final TD.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8178 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:02 am to
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Not saying it is or isn't a penalty, but it's something that needs to be reviewed by the rules committee and defend what is or isn't a illegal pick going forward. Half the time its called half the time it isn't.



It was perfectly legal. Why is it every time things go against Bama your fanbase wants to change the rules?
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4911 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:03 am to
For those complaining about the pick play watch this...

Bama pick play

And get back to me. Also watch a few big 12 games they run these pick plays all the time. Of course Big 12 officials aren't going to call it, they never have before.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77321 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:03 am to
Two things happened last night that normally does not happen...

Bama never gets called for holding when the game is still in doubt and the other teams gets called for anything when they are starting to take over to bail Bama out of trouble...

The opposite happened last night and you just watched as the players and coaches were frustrated by this...

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95172 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:03 am to
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On the 1st TD, the WR at least faked like he was running a route. On the game winner, dude started crab blocking from the whistle. Pretty obvious imo.

The 1st one was closer to a penalty.


The second one wasnt even in consideration. The db initiates contact at the line, and then pulls down the clemson player, and the two Bama players knock into each other.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 11:04 am
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:04 am to
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On the 1st TD, the WR at least faked like he was running a route. On the game winner, dude started crab blocking from the whistle. Pretty obvious imo.



I see what you mean now

Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:05 am to
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Only losers cry about it



Tell your LSU pals this.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95172 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:06 am to



The Bama player initiates contact and tackles the clemson wr
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 11:07 am
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:06 am to
there is literally nothing any bama poster can say to dispute that gif.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:06 am to
The clemson plays were both legal
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:07 am to
This is the first time I've ever upvoted one of your posts
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:07 am to
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What play were you watching? Because that's basically the opposite of what happened on the final TD.





Perhaps a little hyperbole, but the outside receiver was not running a route, nor did he pretend to run a route.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52691 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:07 am to
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Good lord...give it up. You lost fair and square. They made you quit and beat you at your own game. When the refs quit helping you guys you can't win...




The guy's username is ramblin wreck, and he has a GT logo by his username. He's clearly not a bama fan you frickwad.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84099 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:07 am to
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This is the first time I've ever upvoted one of your posts




I doubt that.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84099 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:08 am to
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Perhaps a little hyperbole, but the outside receiver was not running a route, nor did he pretend to run a route.


Kinda hard to even pretend to run a route when a DB drags you down.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59651 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Alabama’s bid to win a second straight national championship fell short thanks to a combination of injuries, a lack of depth on its defensive line that finally came to a head and the struggles of a true freshman quarterback who seemed to run out of gas a bit down the season’s stretch. But the fact two of Clemson’s touchdowns came on illegal pick plays in the end zone didn’t help Alabama’s chances at all. Clemson scored identical touchdowns with future NFL star Mike Williams and likely future New England Patriots camp invitee Hunter Renfrow on the receiving end; both plays should have been flagged for offensive pass interference on the complementary receiver on that side of the field. So blatant was the second that the off-receiver didn’t even make an attempt to cover up his intentions, drive-blocking Marlon Humphrey into the end zone while redirecting safety Tony Brown away from Renfrow.


By Jess Nicholas
TideFans.com Editor-In-Chief
Jan. 10, 2017
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19699 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:08 am to
Saying pick confuses the issue, especially on the first one. People will say the back DB didn't get touched, but that doesn't matter. A rrceiver can't block down field before the pass is thrown, which is exactly what the TE did on that play, went straight at the DB and blocked him 4 yards before the ball was thrown. That's offensive PI regardless. Second one is more gray area. The wr is definitely blocking, but the DB also is engaging
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 11:09 am
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