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re: Who will be at the current position longest: Mullen, Freeze, or Muschamp?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:42 am to pankReb
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:42 am to pankReb
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It's possible. Don't really care to check it. Just thought it was funny that the Arky fan said history shows any OM coach who loses to MSU too much gets fired. Like I said....that's any coach regardless of the school that employs them.
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:44 am to Henry Jones Jr
btw...I'm fully expecting someone like engie or klong to get butthurt over me posting that and start an argument that eventually evolves into a Jones v. RN debate after 8 more pages.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:45 am to pankReb
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start an argument that eventually evolves into a Jones v. RN debate
This is a debate?
It would be like RC Cola having a debate with Coca-Cola.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:49 am to BamaDoc14
Answer is Freeze. Muschamp could be gone this year. Mullen was actually on the hot seat last year. If he ends up having a great year, he would jump ship (he's from New Hampshire). Freeze is from Mississippi. Mullen needs to knock off a top ten team to erase the stigma that he can't win the big one, and he can pack his bags.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:51 am to BamaDoc14
Probably Freeze. He has some good karma built up with the fanbase. He'll at least get the opportunity to develop the talent he's brought in.
Mullen is a climber. Look how young he was when he was a national championship OC and how young he was when took the MSU job. I've got nothing against MSU, but it isn't a permanent job for a guy like Mullen. Some bigger program will take note of his consistency at MSU and snatch him up.
I may be way off base, but I think Muschamp needs a special year to see keep his job. I think if he goes 9-3 with losses to UGA and FSU and doesn't win the East, then Foley has a major decision to make. UF isn't that far removed from winning two national titles and Muschamp would have had 4 years without an East title.
Mullen is a climber. Look how young he was when he was a national championship OC and how young he was when took the MSU job. I've got nothing against MSU, but it isn't a permanent job for a guy like Mullen. Some bigger program will take note of his consistency at MSU and snatch him up.
I may be way off base, but I think Muschamp needs a special year to see keep his job. I think if he goes 9-3 with losses to UGA and FSU and doesn't win the East, then Foley has a major decision to make. UF isn't that far removed from winning two national titles and Muschamp would have had 4 years without an East title.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:52 am to DaleDenton
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It would be like RC Cola having a debate with Coca-Cola.
RC Cola- Typically consumed by the "salt of the earth" people.
Coca-cola- From Georgia.
...uncanny. Well done.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:53 am to MenloDawg
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I may be way off base, but I think Muschamp needs a special year to see keep his job. I think if he goes 9-3 with losses to UGA and FSU and doesn't win the East, then Foley has a major decision to make. UF isn't that far removed from winning two national titles and Muschamp would have had 4 years without an East title.
Muschamp has the tools to be at his job longer with the great recruiting territory and program. But if he can't bring them back to being a consistent 1st or 2nd finish in the east, he'll get the boot.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:57 am to pankReb
Mullen will always have a job somewhere as an OC, Freeze as well just like Muschamp will always have a job as a DC.
Typo. Meant Mullen and Freeze for OC and Muschamp as DC. Hard to type and work at the same time
Typo. Meant Mullen and Freeze for OC and Muschamp as DC. Hard to type and work at the same time
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:58 am to pankReb
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please...list all of the players from the 2012 and 2013 season who fit the criteria that I gave.
Note: you can't go to our team's website and copy/paste the roster. Do it by memory. If you're calling me out on this then you obviously know by heart our entire roster and who was given a scholarship upon signing with us.
I don't need to memorize every player on your team to know that you are willingly rehashing a number thrown out by your coach that was at best misleading and at worst an outright lie -- despite being beaten over the head with how it's bullshite. So -- not only do you post inaccuracies -- but outright lies. Because I've called you on this before.
On June 27, 2012 -- halfway through Freeze's first summer -- you were at 78 scholarship players. Hardly an outlier among SEC programs.
Linky
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 11:59 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:01 pm to pankReb
I agree, he's a competent OC away from having that job for another decade. He just needs that to happen in a hurry.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:01 pm to pankReb
I think Freeze and Mullen will both be where they are for a long long time. I guess of those two, I could see Mullen leaving before I could see Freeze leaving. Freeze basically has his dream job. He grew about 30 min from Oxford and spent his first 15-20 years as a professional an hour north in Memphis. I feel like Freeze isn't the type guy who's looking to use Ole Miss as a stepping stone like Tuberville did. Mullen IMO will be at State a long time too. He's sustained success to a level very good for them and unless some huge school comes calling, which I don't see happening honestly, I think he'll be there for a long time. He's from the northeast, but he's spent a considerable time now in the southeast and doesn't have any real ties to any major colleges anywhere, as he bounced around all over the place until he got to Florida and came from a tiny school prior to coaching.
Muschamp will be fired from Florida before either of those two voluntarily leave their current programs.
Muschamp will be fired from Florida before either of those two voluntarily leave their current programs.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:04 pm to UnAnon
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Freeze as well just like Muschamp will always have a job as a DC.
Freeze is an offense guy
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:08 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Freeze is an offense guy
He is?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:12 pm to engie
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On June 27, 2012 -- halfway through Freeze's first summer -- you were at 78 scholarship players.
So he didn't have 85 men on scholarship that year.
I'm not sure how exactly you've proven us wrong. If anything...you just proved us as being right.
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Hardly an outlier among SEC programs.
according to your link...it ranked 11th in the SEC...which...you know...isn't very good.
wait a minute...your source for information is a fricking wordpress blog which it, itself, uses a message board post(which is 404) as a source? Holy shite.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:15 pm to pankReb
That site knows way more about our team than our HC, engie said so.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:22 pm to rebelrouser
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Mullen needs to knock off a top ten team to erase the stigma that he can't win the big one, and he can pack his bags.
unless he wins big at state, as in he makes a serious push for a division title or has a 10 win season, he may not have a choice of leaving for greener pastures. He was a hot name after his 2010 season, but most of that has died down now after the 3 seasons that followed. However, I still think even though his last 3 years have been amazing or eye opening nationally, I still think the job he's done is very impressive at a school as hard to sustain consistent success as State is.
Anyone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I would say it's understood that Jackie Sherrill is the most successful coach in school history; however, he only went to 6 total bowl games in 13 seasons and never went to a bowl game for more than 3 consecutive seasons. His career winning % was right at .500. The only thing Sherrill really has on Mullen is that he had two seasons that were better than any one season Mullen has had (his SECCG season in 98 and his 10-2 season in 1999).
Mullen, comparatively, is the only coach in school history to go to 4 straight bowl games. The only season he didn't qualify for a bowl game was his first season, where he finished just a game short, but the team was much improved that season from what it was the years prior under Croom. And he's done this running a much cleaner program than Sherrill ever did. (yes I'm taking into account all the talk surrounding Cam Newton and the fact they were placed on probation last year. Shrerill was that dirty a coach, amidst long lasting probation imposed on both schools upon his departures)
Honestly, if Mullen was really on the hot seat (I really have trouble believing that), State really needs to take step back and look at the reality of what their actual potential as a program is and if they really think anyone else they could feasibly get could do any better than Mullen has already.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:30 pm to lsufball19
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Honestly, if Mullen was really on the hot seat (I really have trouble believing that),
The Mullen-hot seat transpired as last season went on. They needed a 4th quarter TD and overtime to beat a terrible arkansas team and our absolute worst game of the season just to get bowl eligible. He wasn't on the hot seat at the beginning of last season and skirting to bowl eligibility and a convincing win over a CUSA team got him back off the hot seat.
If he struggles again this season, expect to hear rumblings again from MSU fans about Hud being the HC the following season.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:36 pm to pankReb
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wait a minute...your source for information is a fricking wordpress blog which it, itself, uses a message board post(which is 404) as a source?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:37 pm to BamaDoc14
Mullen without a doubt
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:38 pm to Grateful Reb
someone needs to make that quote their sig....it should never be forgotten.
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