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re: Who is the best QB in the SEC?

Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:52 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:52 am to
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Patterson is a heisman candidate on a team with a pulse.


Yep - he's incredibly talented. Watching him live against us, he truly reminds you of Johnny Manziel. Probably not quite as good at avoiding the rush, but a better pure passer.

Shame he's stuck throwing slants and go routes and getting sacked.
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
14984 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:52 am to
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I think Patterson is the most talented. He's also incredibly erratic.


He's what I imagine Manziel might have been like playing with a terrible O-line and 15 play calls.


Nailed it. I think Patterson is best but everyone will say Stidham or Hurts.

I take Shea if I'm building a program.
Posted by TheGusBus34
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2014
1635 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:54 am to
After this weekend I became unimpressed with Shea. He threw almost 30 more passes than Stidham and produced 1 more yd. He also missed on some very open recievers and was crap on 3rd down completions. Auburn definitely didn't have its best defensive performance either.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 10:56 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33939 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:54 am to
Jarrett Stidham
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:54 am to
Shea Patterson. This isn't seriously debatable.
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:54 am to
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Patterson would probably be the best on a good team. Ole Miss is not a good team.





Well that makes him the best qb then, right? If you put all the SEC qbs on Alabamas roster, Patterson would have that team more unbeatable than any other SEC qb. I dont even wanna think about that
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:57 am to
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Well that makes him the best qb then, right? If you put all the SEC qbs on Alabamas roster, Patterson would have that team more unbeatable than any other SEC qb. I dont even wanna think about that


That team could probably beat a few NFL teams.


JUST KIDDING.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17387 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:59 am to
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Kid doesn't impress me in the slightest. Only thing that he's good at it avoiding the sack, besides that he looks like a receiver playing qb or something. He played way over his head for that Bama game.


Mond is 18. He's started 5 games. How can you possibly know he played "way over his head" in the Bama game?

I don't know if he's going to keep improving or not, but it's very obvious that the kid is super talented. He's faster than average for a QB, more elusive than average for a QB, with a great QB build, and has a canon for an arm. Will his accuracy become consistent? Will he learn to see the field and go through progressions more effectively? Will he learn to make the proper pre-snap reads? I don't know, but there is every reason to think he's going to keep improving in these areas. He's fricking 18, and he just played a FAR better game against Bama that Shea Patterson did.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:01 am
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:59 am to
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After this weekend I became unimpressed with Shea. He threw almost 30 more passes than Stidham and produced 1 more yd. He also missed on some very open recievers and was crap on 3rd down completions. Auburn definitely didn't have its best defensive performance either.
I agree. I came away thinking he was vastly over rated. I haven't watched him a ton, so maybe it was just an off day.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 10:59 am to
Jalen Hurts just cuz you asked.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37520 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:00 am to
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He's really not though..



He had 237 yards passing. And 2 TDs on Alabama as a true freshman....

What is talented to you?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:01 am to
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I agree. I came away thinking he was vastly over rated. I haven't watched him a ton, so maybe it was just an off day.


He really missed a few throws against Auburn that could have been big plays.

I do think constantly being under pressure both literally (from defenders) and figuratively (having to score every drive and having it completely on your shoulders) does wear on a kid, especially an inexperienced one.

I think it is exactly what is happening to Austin Allen at Arkansas.

This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:03 am
Posted by JohnnyRebel
Colorado
Member since Sep 2014
7186 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:01 am to
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Patterson would probably be the best on a good team. Ole Miss is not a good team.


I think this is right. He's limited by terrible coaching, and a team that seems not to care a lot of the time. I hate to think this as a Rebel fan, but if he can transfer without having to sit out a year, I would if I were him. I think his talent is being wasted right now. He'd have a way better career at another school at this time.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:15 am
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22377 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:05 am to
People hate on him but I'll take the guy who won SEC Offensive Player of the Year as a true freshman.
Posted by TheGusBus34
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2014
1635 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:05 am to
After that first good drive where they missed the FG I think he was mentally affected. Auburn scored on the next drive, Ole Miss goes 3 and out then Auburn scores on the first play of the next drive. That's a lot to overcome for a young QB.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:07 am to
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After that first good drive where they missed the FG I think he was mentally affected. Auburn scored on the next drive, Ole Miss goes 3 and out then Auburn scores on the first play of the next drive. That's a lot to overcome for a young QB.


Yep - especially the week after losing 66-3 and feeling the "here we go again" thing.

For his sake I hope he doesn't fall into bad habits and mentally lose it.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3806 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:08 am to
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I hate to think this as a Rebel fan, but if he can transfer without having to sit out a year, I would if I were him.


Yep, I wouldn't be upset at him if he did that. Longo's offense is a freaking joke. I think he's waiting to see who the next HC is going to be. Put him on Alabama's team, and they would be totally unbeatable and he'd be in the driver's seat for the Heisman.
Posted by Motengator
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2013
1357 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:09 am to
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I-H8-BAMA



Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:10 am to
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Put him on Alabama's team, and they would be totally unbeatable and he'd be in the driver's seat for the Heisman.


Agree. He's not quite the runner Hurts is but he's pretty good, and his arm talent is incredible. Our offense would be CFB all-time good.

I hope, for his sake and Ole Miss', that they hire a stable coach with a good scheme and he is able to have a good career there.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:10 am
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:11 am to
Yards/Game
1. Patterson- 358.4
2. Lock- 294.0
3. Bentley- 242.7
4. Stidham- 224.2
5. Johnson- 206.3

QB Rating
1. Stidham- 166.24
2. Fromm- 164.45
3. Patterson- 156.16
4. Etling- 149.72
5. Hurts- 149.71

Completion Percentage
1. Stidham- 71.2%
2. Patterson- 66.3%
3. Johnson- 63.9%
4. Franks- 63.3%
5. Hurts- 63.1%

Rushing Yards/Game
1. Hurts- 86.17
2. Fitzgerald- 68.6
3. Mond- 44.33
4. Johnson- 24.0
5. Ettling- 17.17

Here's how I'd rate them:

1. Stidham
2. Patterson
3. Fromm
4. Hurts
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