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re: Who do you want to see added to a 16 team SEC?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:02 pm to BearBait09
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:02 pm to BearBait09
Texas and OU
You can't have one without the other or you shouldn't. There is plenty more TV to be had in Texas and adding in Oklahoma (a national brand as well) makes sense to me. I'd move the two Alabama teams to the east. Then I'd shift Mizzou back to the west.
SEC West
Arkansas
LSU
Mizzou
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M
SEC East
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbuilt
This all works geographically as well.
You can't have one without the other or you shouldn't. There is plenty more TV to be had in Texas and adding in Oklahoma (a national brand as well) makes sense to me. I'd move the two Alabama teams to the east. Then I'd shift Mizzou back to the west.
SEC West
Arkansas
LSU
Mizzou
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M
SEC East
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbuilt
This all works geographically as well.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 1:31 pm
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:09 pm to Korin
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Ohio State?
Borders Kentucky, is a good recruiting area, and has a few large TV markets.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:01 pm to AirDawg
Texas would break up the SEC within two years. They have already destroyed two conferences, why would you wish this upon yourself?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:03 pm to The Balinese Club
“Father, forgive them for they do not know what they are doing”
Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:06 pm to iglass
quote:
- new TV markets, should bring something new to the table
- since we are the SOUTHeastern conference, should be a geographical fit, preferably contiguous to current footprint
- doesn't cannibalize existing team strengths
- solid academic profile
- comprehensive sports programs with good history
- no schools smaller than current members, public schools preferred, "regional" not really an option
Virginia/Virginia Tech and UNC/NC State fit all those criteria
Might work:
quote:
North Carolina -OR- NC State
Yes
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Virginia -OR- Virginia Tech
Yes
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Maryland
No, just left for the Big Ten
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Texas - OR - Baylor -OR- Houston - OR- TCU
No to all four for different reasons.
Texas cannot play by rules they don't set. That's been proven multiple times across multiple conferences. They would NEVER subordinate themselves to Birmingham. Not to mention the leash ESPN has them on.
Baylor and TCU are small private schools.
Houston is a commuter school at best and isn't even in the top 200 of USNWR
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Cincinnati
Too far north
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Miami
Private school
Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:21 pm to bamaclownbaby
quote:Did you read the OP on this thread?
But if you simply want to wish...
Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:24 pm to AirDawg
East
Auburn
Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
West
Alabama
Arkansas
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi State
Missouri
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Auburn
Clemson
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
West
Alabama
Arkansas
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi State
Missouri
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:31 pm to deeprig9
Louisville is everything the SEC isn't (at least the romantic version of the SEC).
-Located in the ghetto
-Commuter school to the nth degree
-Probably half the students are "non traditional" students
-The other half are UK fans who went there for the convenience
-Hilariously low entrance requirements (may be a positive for State and OM fans)
-Ghetto fan base
-TINY fan base. Seriously, it's extremely small but they turn out for games because they all live within 20 minutes of the venues
-They name their facilities after fast food restaurants
-For those who don't know the history of their football program, it's really, really bad. It was almost cut in the 80's. It's come a long way, but it wasn't that long ago they were playing in the outfield of a run down minor league baseball field. When you rise that quickly, you fall pretty quick, too
-SLEAZY. Name a sleazier athletic department. You can't.
-Once Jurich leaves, they will suck at everything again.
-Located in the ghetto
-Commuter school to the nth degree
-Probably half the students are "non traditional" students
-The other half are UK fans who went there for the convenience
-Hilariously low entrance requirements (may be a positive for State and OM fans)
-Ghetto fan base
-TINY fan base. Seriously, it's extremely small but they turn out for games because they all live within 20 minutes of the venues
-They name their facilities after fast food restaurants
-For those who don't know the history of their football program, it's really, really bad. It was almost cut in the 80's. It's come a long way, but it wasn't that long ago they were playing in the outfield of a run down minor league baseball field. When you rise that quickly, you fall pretty quick, too
-SLEAZY. Name a sleazier athletic department. You can't.
-Once Jurich leaves, they will suck at everything again.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:38 pm to thesoccerfanjax
They have been to multiple BCS bowls under multiple coaches, and pull in Big 5 athletic revenue numbers without a Big 5 TV contract.
I think you underrate Louisville, even if I don't want them in the SEC because of the pact...
I think you underrate Louisville, even if I don't want them in the SEC because of the pact...
Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:39 pm to cardboardboxer
They only got to said BCS games because of their conference at the time.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:47 pm to cave canem
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Simply adding markets does not mean shite if nobody in the market watches the team in question.Half of the names being tossed around can't put 45,000 in the stands, what makes anyone think people will pay to watch them on TV
You just described Mississippi State.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:57 pm to ErnestTBassmaster
UNC & Kansas, would bring in the K.C. market and give Mizzou a rival, UNC would bring in the state of N.C. and a UK, UNC, KU, Florida basketball conference would be the SHYZZZZITS it college basketball, the 3 top programs in history with a fast riser.
All teams don't have to be Oklahoma in football, we have a tough football conference already.
All teams don't have to be Oklahoma in football, we have a tough football conference already.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 3:59 pm to Mizz-SEC
Louisville = UH, only with more recent success.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:02 pm to AirDawg
quote:
Texas and OU
I know this is a fantasy thread but these 2 aren't going anywhere w/out Baylor and Okie Lite in tow.
The former big 12 south schools will probably end up in a very large PAC conference eastern division in 5 years or so.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:04 pm to AirDawg
quote:there actually isn't. adding any other school from the state of texas, regardless of who you add, would provide no extra money for the conference
There is plenty more TV to be had in Texas
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:04 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
As much as hate to say it. With the GOR, I think the only way we get into VA and NC is by adding ECU and ODU(please no).
Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:05 pm to WestCoastAg
it would provide higher ratings and more negotiating room for the conference when it comes to TV rights.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:07 pm to cas4t
Where the horns are concerned, TV rights = LHN.
There are no rights beyond that.
There are no rights beyond that.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:08 pm to cas4t
quote:we already carry all of the major cities in texas. sure it would be higher, but we already are the most watched team in most of the major cities in texas
it would provide higher ratings
quote:the only university in texas that would add to this is texas and I would not want to negotiate tv rights with them
more negotiating room for the conference when it comes to TV rights
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 6/9/14 at 4:10 pm to BearBait09
1. Oklahoma and Oklahoma State
2. move Alabama and Auburn to East
3. traditional rivalries all in tact because they're all in the same division
4. Balance
5. Everyone's happy
2. move Alabama and Auburn to East
3. traditional rivalries all in tact because they're all in the same division
4. Balance
5. Everyone's happy
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