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re: Which SEC school brings the least to the conference?
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:34 pm to alabamabuckeye
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:34 pm to alabamabuckeye
YOURS
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:35 pm to Pettifogger
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schools like UGA already have
In my experience w/ UGA (which is quite extensive), their reputation has received a very generous boost due to proximity to ATL. UGA is a beautiful school and a ton of fun and has high regional visibility. Thus, admissions standards are fairly high (for an SEC school, anyways). But once you get in, make no mistake, it's a party school. And after graduation you can make your way to ATL and plug yourself into a very deep alum network that has access to very good jobs in the south's largest city.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:35 pm to MasCervezas
Y'all are right. All 55,000 of us suburban Texans are awkward.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:36 pm to UMTigerRebel
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The main decision on whether or not to hire is based on your previous performance.
What matters:
1) Your network.
2) Your work experience
3) Your degree
In that order. The reason I put network first, is because that usually gets you the interview. Your work experience usually gets you the job, but if you don't have that, and no other applicants can compete with their work experience, then your degree can bail you out.
Nine times out of ten, an employer will hire an Ole Miss grad with a few years of relevant work experience over a Harvard grad with none.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:37 pm to DCRebel
Exactly. I'm a bsME from MSU -- and worked on Challenge X the whole time I was there. People can argue "theory" and "prestige" of engineering schools all they want, and I will laugh at it.
When you put MSU grads in a real world engineering application designing the future of automobiles, we can(and did) kick arse and take names with the best of them. IDGAF how good Ohio St, Penn St, etc are in theoreticals and formulas on a piece of paper -- because when it came to creating those things in reality, we kicked the crap out of them -- and MSU is probably about to do that again with Ecocar2(although I haven't looked at the results or the teams competing in that one).
When you put MSU grads in a real world engineering application designing the future of automobiles, we can(and did) kick arse and take names with the best of them. IDGAF how good Ohio St, Penn St, etc are in theoreticals and formulas on a piece of paper -- because when it came to creating those things in reality, we kicked the crap out of them -- and MSU is probably about to do that again with Ecocar2(although I haven't looked at the results or the teams competing in that one).
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:38 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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This thread has turned into a soft weiner-measuring contest over academics.
:offseasonstandup:
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:39 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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We're in the top 20 for public schools
Well unfortunately for you people go to private school, too, and y'all are 69th overall when you factor in those kids. Right in between two other nationally respected, elite brands: Rutgers and Minnesota.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:40 pm to WheelRoute
We were 55th like 5 years ago. And 47th ten years ago. Those rankings don't mean shite.
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:40 pm to engie
I'll leave it at this: I got into a prestigious graduate school and have had incredible work opportunities. I don't feel my Ole Miss degree hindered me in this regard. I also don't feel like my opportunities would have magically been that much better had I gone to school somewhere else. Different, maybe, but not "better" in any sense.
So measure your dicks all you want. I went to school for free and parlayed that into a great graduate program and career. Enjoy your student loan debt to a school that looks like a shitty sci-fi movie set located in fricking College Station.
So measure your dicks all you want. I went to school for free and parlayed that into a great graduate program and career. Enjoy your student loan debt to a school that looks like a shitty sci-fi movie set located in fricking College Station.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:41 pm to DCRebel
I agree with you on your network being extremely important. In business it is very much about who you know.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:41 pm to DCRebel
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Nine times out of ten, an employer will hire an Ole Miss grad with a few years of relevant work experience over a Harvard grad with none.
Eh... in my industry this isn't true. I see your point and I support it, but where I work it'd be more like UNC w/ a few yrs as opposed to Harvard. The gulf b/w U.S.-Oxford and U.S.-Cambridge is simply too large.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:42 pm to DCRebel
You aren't a mad, angry person at all
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:44 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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You hate aggy. Got it.
No, I just don't like you.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:44 pm to WheelRoute
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In my experience w/ UGA (which is quite extensive), their reputation has received a very generous boost due to proximity to ATL. UGA is a beautiful school and a ton of fun and has high regional visibility. Thus, admissions standards are fairly high (for an SEC school, anyways). But once you get in, make no mistake, it's a party school. And after graduation you can make your way to ATL and plug yourself into a very deep alum network that has access to very good jobs in the south's largest city.
I went to grad school at UGA, but I think I can comment on undergrad there vs. Auburn (where I did undergrad). Adams at UGA really pushed academic rigor, something not present at Auburn outside of "hard" subjects like engineering or tech. It wasn't present at UGA either, for that matter. But in contrast, I didn't have to work at Auburn at all. That's changing now somewhat, but UGA was already like that by the time I arrived, and my friends had to work more even in "soft" subjects.
Anyway, I think most of your points are correct, but UGA does draw smart kids and good faculty. I think they benefited heavily from HOPE and Atlanta, but now they're actually working to make the changes to the school to correspond with those built in advantages.
To be honest, for public schools to really soar you need a major feeder city, you need to be in a state on the rise or that is already prominent, and you need money.
Almost all of them have that. UGA in GA and with ATL, UNC in a rising NC and growing Charlotte, Texas with Austin, TAMU with Houston, UCLA, UVA, UF etc. etc.
Hence it'll be tough for the Miss schools to get too far with their state as it is. Auburn and Alabama are benefiting from Alabama's growth, but they'll track the state's upswing. To a lesser extent, so will LSU.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:44 pm to WestCoastAg
Hi, I don't think we've met. I'm one of the resident assholes. Have been for, like, three or four years now. Welcome to the SEC Rant.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:45 pm to DCRebel
I don't mind saying it: I hate Aggy. Least self-confident fanbase in all of CFB. Crippling anxiety a/b their status. As I've said before, UTx really did a number on those guys.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:45 pm to DCRebel
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So measure your dicks all you want. I went to school for free and parlayed that into a great graduate program and career. Enjoy your student loan debt to a school that looks like a shitty sci-fi movie set located in fricking College Station.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:46 pm to WheelRoute
Put us in our fricking place
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:46 pm to Pettifogger
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To be honest, for public schools to really soar you need a major feeder city, you need to be in a state on the rise or that is already prominent, and you need money.
Agree w/ you 1000%. It's a symbiotic relationship.
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