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Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:03 pm to 1991UW
Which CFB program is greater historically: Michigan or Alabama?
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:04 pm to 1991UW
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opinion on how many teams to let in.... 8 to 10 now.
thats not an opinion, thats a rule change. An opinion would be them voting for the wild card teams.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:04 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Which CFB program is greater historically: Michigan or Alabama?
Alabama and it's not even close. Michigan is not even close to being a powerhouse since the 1950s.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:05 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Which CFB program is greater historically: Michigan or Alabama?
Alabama
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:05 pm to secfan123
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thats not an opinion, thats a rule change (which was made by someone or a group of peoples opinion). An opinion would be them voting for the wild card teams.
lets just let all the teams in the playoffs then... clearly no opinion was involved in that decision.
This post was edited on 2/26/12 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:06 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Which CFB program is greater historically: Michigan or Alabama?
Got to go Bama. UM has won more wins, Bama more bowl wins, and for the undisputable poll ere championships, Bama has 9, UM has 2.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:07 pm to 1991UW
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lets just let all the teams in the playoff then... clearly no opinion was involved in that decision.
Football is not a game that esily lends itself to a playoff scenario, as only one game per week can be played. College football at the FBS level makes it even more difficult, with 119 teams and conferences that arent even close to even.
But we're not talking about someone's opinion on which system is better, we're talking about opinion within the system.
This post was edited on 2/26/12 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:08 pm to secfan123
1. Michigan: 888-306-38
2. Texas: 853-326-34
3. Notre Dame: 845-296-42
4. Nebraska: 836-345-41
5. Ohio State: 825-315-53
6. Alabama: 825-317-43
2. Texas: 853-326-34
3. Notre Dame: 845-296-42
4. Nebraska: 836-345-41
5. Ohio State: 825-315-53
6. Alabama: 825-317-43
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:09 pm to WonderWartHawg
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1. Michigan: 888-306-38
2. Texas: 853-326-34
3. Notre Dame: 845-296-42
4. Nebraska: 836-345-41
5. Ohio State: 825-315-53
6. Alabama: 825-317-43
All time wins<<<<<Major Bowl Wins/"National Titles"
This post was edited on 2/26/12 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:10 pm to thatthang
Great arguments on playoffs, though. I really hate the 8 (ish) models. And if it's 8 with the top 6 conference champions going, I really hate it. Too many POS teams getting an autoqualification bid. And if it is only conference champions (unless your name is Notre Dame) than that is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:11 pm to WonderWartHawg
Michigan has more wins but played more games
No doubt up until Rich Rod Michigan went to a bowl game a gazillion years in a row
No doubt up until Rich Rod Michigan went to a bowl game a gazillion years in a row
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:14 pm to WonderWartHawg
How does the Michigan/Bama debate negate the 1990-1997 Arkansas era when they won only 40 % of the time
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:14 pm to KillianRussell
Not many titles, though. Still a great program.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:15 pm to KillianRussell
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Michigan has more wins but played more games
No doubt up until Rich Rod Michigan went to a bowl game a gazillion years in a row
Michigan really likes to lose in the Rose Bowl though... they haven't done so well there in a long time.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:18 pm to Master of Sinanju
I went to Penn State I hate Michigan
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:40 pm to thatthang
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You know what? You are right. I thought they at least had a share of it (AP or UPI) in '64. Now I see Bama had both. Yeah that's a pretty bogus claim. We can argue about NC claims all day, but I can't really think of any other schools (besides Bama's bogus '41 claim) who claim an NC in the poll era (post 1936) who didn't when one of the two major polls (AP or UPI).
We changed the landscape of college football for the better that season. The following season AP changed their poll to after the bowl game. We beat the team that beat you in your final game. It's still a recognized title by repuatble sources so we claim it. No different than 5-6 titles that Bama claims in their history. We were called national champs by a source in '77 and don't claim that one so it's not like we just take what we can get. We were the only team from a major conference undefeated. The only ones who polls who voted after the bowl games unanimously voted Arkansas as the national champs. Only Bama logic and a flawed system lets you keep your title so congrats.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 4:55 pm to Unbiased Bama Fan
Not going to read the thread but all of the numbers suggest The Hogs are way ahead of WV.
College Football Data Warehouse
Arkansas is #22
WV is #60
College Football Data Warehouse
Arkansas is #22
WV is #60
Posted on 2/26/12 at 5:16 pm to thatthang
Except we were undefeated and you lost to a team we beat.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 5:25 pm to ShreveportHog94
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No different than 5-6 titles that Bama claims in their history. We were called national champs by a source in '77 and don't claim that one so it's not like we just take what we can get. We were the only team from a major conference undefeated. The only ones who polls who voted after the bowl games unanimously voted Arkansas as the national champs. Only Bama logic and a flawed system lets you keep your title so congrats.
Get your panties out of a wad. I wasn’t even attacking Ark, just stating that I was unaware that there were many instances where teams claimed NC’s in the poll era when they didn’t win the AP or UPI.
Bama logic allows Bama to claim ‘64? Bama claims '64 as they were crowned National Champs by the two polls that mattered at the time. Flawed system? Absolutely. It still is. But it is irrelevant to point out that team A beat team B, which beat Team C, etc. What is relevant is that Bama undisputedly won '64 with the system that was in place at the time. If you want to shite on a Bama title, focus on '41.
To summarize, you (and much of the country) might not like it, but Bama won both ’64 and 2011 with the established systems of the time, as flawed as they may have been.
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