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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:12 pm to
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Reverse Racism


There is a huge amount of this in this country but it gets overlooked
Posted by OBReb6
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:14 pm to
I think it's funny that those who cry race the most come up with these claims that racial slurs against whites are not the same thing, and that whites shouldn't be offended, etc. they're virtually making an unconscious statement that white people are inherently better, and different rules apply to them.


None of them will admit it, but that is absolutely the case, and continuing such a stance does nothing but increase the disparity.
Posted by Rich Kotite
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:16 pm to
You're right, but the term "reverse racism" is a fallacy in itself. Like the only reason the word was invented was because of white against black. Americans are incredibly myopic.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:19 pm to
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It's not the same now? They're both insulting. Are you telling me how to take a slur? Do I not have the right to complain because I'm WASP? That's reverse racism


It's not the same because systemic racism has yet to impact straight white males on any level that comes close to others. SWMs make more money, control government, and all the gears of power. SWMs aren't constantly harassed (with a few exceptions). That's just not true for others.

And FTR, cracker is a proper ethnic group within GA and FL. When it is used as a slur I've yet to meet a soul that isn't a diehard racist who doesn't laugh their arse off when called a cracker or honky. Words have power when you're powerless (or in high school) but when you have power they rarely mean shite.

That's not to say minorities can't discriminate or be racists - they can and DO, especially when someone wanders out of their neighborhood or lives in a neighborhood dominated by others (tho' that could be said for others too) - but on the whole it's just not the same.

Finally, there's no such thing as reverse racism. If a black man acts racist towards a white man it's racism pure and simple. Nothing reverse about it.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:22 pm to
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You're right, but the term "reverse racism" is a fallacy in itself. Like the only reason the word was invented was because of white against black. Americans are incredibly myopic.


What would you call it then?

I am not sure you are understanding what reverse racism means.

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This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 11:26 pm
Posted by Rich Kotite
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:24 pm to
Racism, which it is by definition. JFC, every race in history has been "racist" towards another. It does not only mean whitey hates blacks. Why is this so hard to understand?
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 11:28 pm
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:28 pm to
I get what you are saying but the minimization of the racism by the minority to the majority is where I was implying reverse racism. I wouldn't say that necessarily is being the same as racist.
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 11:33 pm
Posted by mbogo
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:31 pm to
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Alright. Next time someone has a right fielder who is black I dare you to scream the N word at him.



South Park has dealt with that.

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Posted by Rich Kotite
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:36 pm to
I agree and understand, when you hear "racist" you automatically think "whitey against black" in today's society. I'm saying that is incorrect, racism is racism no matter the color. There's no way that perception is gonna change though, which is something the internet crusaders need to accept.
Posted by Bogie00
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:38 pm to
When everyone really does live by the "Golden Rule."

Posted by Prof
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:40 pm to
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I think it's funny...that racial slurs against whites are not the same thing, and that whites shouldn't be offended, e


No one is saying that. Racism is disgusting no matter who does it.

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that those who cry race the most come up with these claims


And who would that be? Lotta straight white male conservatives appear to be crying racism in this thread but you appear to be ignoring that. For all you know a lotta straight white males are also calling out those stuck in the past. I'm also pretty sure it wasn't a minority who started this thread. And before you start with Jesse and Al some perspective please - two people ain't a color.

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they're virtually making an unconscious statement that white people are inherently better, and different rules apply to them.



Who is them? 1. You're making the assumption it's all non-white straight conservatives - could be true but could be false. With the internet there's no way of knowing. 2. the latter part? Holy frickshit batman. White folks are inherently better? On what grounds. Different rules apply? Not really - when it come to the individual a hate crime/racist comments and so on are all the same. When it comes to generalities, when we base things on the history of groups, they're not the same at all.

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None of them will admit it, but that is absolutely the case, and continuing such a stance does nothing but increase the disparity.


How so? Unless you're a bitter arse determined to be proven right in that assumption then every single one of us wants a more equal society than we currently have.


This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 11:43 pm
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:40 pm to
I agree, racism has been around since the dawn of time and I don't think it ever will change. I do however feel that tolerance can be accomplished
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:47 pm to
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When everyone really does live by the "Golden Rule."


THIS x1000. Pretty much the cure to 90+ percent everything that ails us as a society.
Posted by OBReb6
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:48 pm to
I am in fact mostly referencing straight white males making these claims. They are the ones driven by white guilt to give different rules for minorities to appear to give them a more equal position. But in reality it is just giving them more excuses to use.


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How so? Unless you're a bitter arse determined to be proven right in that assumption then every single one of us wants a more equal society than we currently have.


We are not in much better shape emotionally than we were in the past in this country, just in the opposite direction. Blacks are more openly resentful to whites now than they have ever been, and I think it's largely because they realize they oftentimes have a lot to gain by doing so, because white guilt apologists have opened avenues for constant racism cries to be met with compensation.


Our race relations are in no way improving, they are just shifting.
Posted by Rich Kotite
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:50 pm to
Good luck with that. Humans gonna human, no matter how much yall hold hands and sing about it. Might as well hope to ride unicorns over the rainbow to find leprechaun gold. OBReb just nailed it, btw
This post was edited on 5/15/14 at 11:52 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:56 pm to
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SWMs make more money, control government, and all the gears of power.

This is news to the poor, straight, white males.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:57 pm to


Preach
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:02 am to
People need to stop being such f'ing vags.

All these groups are already legally protected.

But that's not enough, they have to f'ing demand everybody in the world put them on a pedestal and celebrate them.

To hell with that. There is plenty of stuff in this world that's perfectly fine for people to do that I don't have to jump and down and praise and pretend like I'm ok with.

Be gay, fine that's cool, nobody is stopping you, there shouldn't be any laws saying you can't or punishments if you are, but not every single person in the world has to give you their homo stamp of approval.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:02 am to
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If racism is unnaceptable, then so should homophobia and sexism.


The world is becoming so sanitized, colorless and prudish. The level of PC has become ridiculous and those who support it deserve to be ridiculed.
Posted by Rich Kotite
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:04 am to
Talk about preach on.
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