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re: What Will Be The Actual Consequences For Ole Miss?

Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:21 am to
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:21 am to
Dude. So when a criminal tells his defense lawyer he's innocent, knowing he's guilty, the lawyer says his client is innocent. That's what lawyers do. Did you expect his lawyer to say he was guilty?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:28 am to
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It's getting fricking old and it just happened Thursday...come on people
Ole Miss fans arent battle tested.

...but y'all damned sure are!
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7833 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:42 am to
They'll have to vacate the 3 points they scored in the Peach Bowl. Players will have to give these back:
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:50 am to
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Under the former ncaa regime, 27 schollies over 3 years, one year bowl ban.

Under this ncaa, probably 8 schollies over 2 years.


This is what is interesting for Ole Miss. NCAA has not looked great in their last two "big investigations". Plus the "SEC does things differently" mantra that exists. If the NCAA decides to make an example out of Ole Miss this could be pretty bad....think SMU. That was a shock-and-awe tactic to clean up the Big8.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:57 am to
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If the NCAA decides to make an example out of Ole Miss this could be pretty bad....think SMU


Worst case scenario, it will be akin to USCw. However, the catalyst here is Mississippi's extremely un-PC politics that is drawing negative attention nationally.

The NCAA could address SEC cheating via Ole Miss without drawing any negative attention to itself nationally because Ole Miss is in Mississippi.

If I were an Ole Miss fan, that is the single issue that has me worried...not whether or not they have them dead to rights on cheating, but whether the NCAA even cares because they know OM, of all schools, is a really easy mark.

This was the USCw Punishment:

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LOS ANGELES -- The NCAA threw the book at storied Southern California on Thursday with a two-year bowl ban, four years' probation, loss of scholarships and forfeits of an entire year's games for improper benefits to Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush dating to the Trojans' 2004 national championship.

USC was penalized for a lack of institutional control in the ruling by the NCAA following its four-year investigation. The report cited numerous improper benefits for Bush and former basketball player O.J. Mayo, who spent just one year with the Trojans.


The coaches who presided over the alleged misdeeds -- football's Pete Carroll and basketball's Tim Floyd -- left USC in the past year.

The penalties include the loss of 30 football scholarships over three years and vacating 14 victories in which Bush played from December 2004 through the 2005 season.


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The NCAA says Bush received lavish gifts from two fledgling sports marketers hoping to sign him. The men paid for everything from hotel stays and a rent-free home where Bush's family apparently lived to a limousine and a new suit when he accepted his Heisman in New York in December 2005.


LINK

What potentially makes Ole Miss different here (AT LEAST ON PERCEPTION) is that there is evidence that the actual Ole Miss coaching staff has been actively involved in the cheating. Moreover, if there is cheating going on, one could even link it all the way to the Athletic Director in this case.

So, who knows...as I stated before in this thread, it is just people reading the tea leaves right now.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 9:02 am
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5454 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:59 am to
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If I were an Ole Miss fan, that is the single issue that has me worried...not whether or not they have them dead to rights on cheating, but whether the NCAA even cares because they know OM, of all schools, is a really easy mark.



:kige:

Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7833 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:59 am to
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If I were an Ole Miss fan, that is the single issue that has me worried...not whether or not they have them dead to rights on cheating, but whether the NCAA even cares because they know OM, of all schools, is a really easy mark.



Yep. A historically bad program. Zero winning tradition. Rampant drug use among players.

NCAA going in dry.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:00 am to
Unfortunately this is true...it's not right, but it's true.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:04 am to
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Yep. A historically bad program. Zero winning tradition. Rampant drug use among players.



The bigger issue than all of that is the Religious Liberty Bill and the state flag relative to national reaction and perception.

The NCAA is already trying to prevent State, OM and Southern from hosting regionals over the religious liberty bill this year.
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:34 am to
His not saying that the text are not true just they have been addressed which will come out as true or not well before this civil trial sees a court room. Why lie about it if you know it will be proven wrong.

But also any source can be lying to anyone but for now he is the best one there is. If you just don't believe him because his source might be wrong or lying I guess you don't believe any source that not official? I'm not saying it's 100% true just name a better source for now?
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:26 pm to
The penalties to USCw are at the lower end of what happens to OM.

OM will get close to death penalty
Posted by DeathPenalty
H-Town
Member since Apr 2016
399 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:35 pm to
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The penalties to USCw are at the lower end of what happens to OM.

OM will get close to death penalty


Lifelong SEC Champ game band.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17197 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:32 pm to
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Show Cause


What is this
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:39 pm to
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What is this



A penalty for coaches:

LINK
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:41 pm to
OM will take a beating from NCAA
and fire Freeze.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:42 pm to
I don't think so, I think they will avoid firing Freeze. There is too much to lose.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25234 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 4:43 pm to
No consequences. The DJ Fluker rule will be invoked.
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