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re: What Will Be The Actual Consequences For Ole Miss?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:04 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:04 pm to cardboardboxer
Maybe nothing in terms of sanctions, but the Wild West days are over for Ole Miss.
No way they are brazen enough to keep up their rampant cheating with NCAA up their arse.
So the days of top 10 classes and out of state 5* are over. We'll have to see what Freeze does identifying and developing instead of buying. I doubt it ends well for him.
No way they are brazen enough to keep up their rampant cheating with NCAA up their arse.
So the days of top 10 classes and out of state 5* are over. We'll have to see what Freeze does identifying and developing instead of buying. I doubt it ends well for him.
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Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:04 pm to reb13
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I know for a fact other sec schools do the exact same thing,
I feel certain that the same happens at LSU - but I don't personally know of boosters doing so. I do know of one for OM. He is pretty unabashed about it as well.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:05 pm to Kilgore Trout
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Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:06 pm to Kilgore Trout
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Until then, no, I do not equate "blue bloods" with "current powerhouses".
FSU is more than a current powerhouse. They have been kicking arse since the 1990s. As a program, they DOMINATE Ole Miss on the numbers:
It isn't even close.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:07 pm to cardboardboxer
One thing they need to force Ole Miss to do is take down the 2003 Co Champions Banner
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:08 pm to JesusQuintana
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No way they are brazen enough to keep up their rampant cheating with NCAA up their arse.
I don't know, I think the plan from the start has been to call the NCAA on their bluff. I think Ole Miss will pretend its all ok and the problem was a leaky ship and not the fact its a fricking pirate ship.
It will take outside pressure- ie Bama reporters making life hell for their recruits- to cause a change on NSD.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:10 pm to DeltaDoc
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I think this is what we know:
We also know that Jennifer Coney refuted the insinuation that Ole Miss offered Rashan Gary and Gregory Little money or other improper benefits.
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Things That Are Irrefutable: - Freeze arrived on campus and has recruited better than any OM coach in history - even before he had any on the field success to speak of;
Not exactly. His 2012 recruiting class was humdrum. With that class and his predecessor's recruits, Freeze took a 2-10 team to a 7-6 record. That turnaround played a significant role in landing the highly touted 2013 class.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:12 pm to cardboardboxer
I think they have a recruiting class ranked in the 50's right now. It's early sure, but they won't stay the course they've been on. I don't think they ever intended to throw it in the NCAA's face. They intended to hide it.
Ole Miss is the wrong program to do what you say. They aren't a sheltered blue blood, and they are high enough profile to make an example of.
Ole Miss is the wrong program to do what you say. They aren't a sheltered blue blood, and they are high enough profile to make an example of.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:14 pm to Kilgore Trout
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team to a 7-6 record. That turnaround played a significant role in landing the highly touted 2013 class.
Yeah, that must have been what it was. Never mind the fact that there was no excuse to ever be 2 and 10 as an SEC team.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:14 pm to cardboardboxer
4 pages now? Let's shut this thing down
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:15 pm to Kilgore Trout
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With that class and his predecessor's recruits, Freeze took a 2-10 team to a 7-6 record. That turnaround played a significant role in landing the highly touted 2013 class.
That is all true. That said, Tunsil still has to be considered an outlier type of recruit for OM. And...he has had to sit for improper benefits. And...his text messages and confirmation of the message seems to also indicate improper benefits.
Again, nothing we know for certain, but when you start connecting dots, they connect really easily.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:15 pm to Kilgore Trout
And that 2013 class included a certain 5 star recruit that at signing day had never set foot on the OleMiss campus
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:15 pm to cardboardboxer
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Nah, those guys are chumps compared to the "Roll Tide" army of Bama reporters.
no way mayne.
our baws follow you into the pisser and pop dem bubble gum snowcaps w/Rumlin.
u gonna doubt this beast?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:17 pm to Kilgore Trout
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His 2012 recruiting class was humdrum. With that class and his predecessor's recruits
You can use that point to strengthen the argument that he started paying players.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:17 pm to Kilgore Trout
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We'll find out in September.
Until then, no, I do not equate "blue bloods" with "current powerhouses". Blue blood connotes a long history.
So you agree. Minnesota is a blue blood.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:19 pm to JesusQuintana
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I don't think they ever intended to throw it in the NCAA's face. They intended to hide it.
Oh yeah, they intended to hide in via buy-in from the whole community. Ole Miss figured out the flaw in the NCAA system is the whole self-enforcement thing. They thought if everyone agreed to stay quiet it would stay under wraps, and if the NCAA can't get anyone to testify then there is no case. It took a weak moment at the NFL draft to shatter that silence.
From their perspective the problem isn't that they cheated, the problem is they got caught.
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Ole Miss is the wrong program to do what you say. They aren't a sheltered blue blood, and they are high enough profile to make an example of.
I don't disagree with that, but you have to understand their motivation.
This is a program that has been beaten down ever since integration. Until Freeze Ole Miss had not beaten Alabama more than 10 times in their ENTIRE history.
I think they saw the reality of the situation, the reality of the caste system that is college football, and said "either we cheat or we suck. Punishment or not let's cheat so we have someone to be proud of before they take it from us again." Freedom is another word for nothing left to lose.
I admire them actually, college football is a bullshite caste system and cheating is probably the only equalizer. I wish my program had that luxury, but in our state someone would dig up the dirt for the NCAA and rub their noses in it just to stop us.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:45 pm to El Batnaros
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Holy fricking shite can we put this shite to bed lets talk about some other bullshite...every fricking thread on this fricking board is about Ole Miss...if we get hammered then point and laugh but enough with this shite pls
The deep, gut-wrenching mourning hath begun...
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Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:51 pm to El Batnaros
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Holy fricking shite can we put this shite to bed lets talk about some other bull shite...every fricking thread on this fricking board is about Ole Miss...if we get hammered then point and laugh but enough with this shite pls
This is a monumental tactical error.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:55 pm to Jobu93
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This is a monumental tactical error.
Yes.
Listen to Aggy. We have oodles of experience in this type of tRant ridicule.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:57 pm to El Batnaros
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4 pages now? Let's shut this thing down
You don't understand how this place works in the offseason
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