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Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:00 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Listen to Aggy. We have oodles of experience in this type of tRant ridicule.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:07 pm to cardboardboxer
Donnie Tyndall gets a 20 year show cause.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:22 pm to DeltaDoc
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Tunsil still has to be considered an outlier type of recruit for OM.
Definitely, or at least that was the case in 2013. I assure you, I was as nonplussed as anyone else when Tunsil picked Ole Miss.
The ostensible reason was the guarantee that he'd start as a true freshman, something more established programs could not promise.
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his text messages and confirmation of the message seems to also indicate improper benefits.
While the loaner car was undeniably an improper benefit — anyone who knows how the system works knows that auto dealerships are integral to the booster network; drive by any athletic dorm parking lot — the context or authenticity of the text messages has yet to be established. Re the controversy surrounding what exactly Tunsil confirmed or did not confirm at the presser, log on to any sports blog for the continuing dialog.
I once worked for an Alabama shadow booster in our mutual hometown in east Mississippi, so I've witnessed these under-the-table handouts. Since you claim to know a bag man, does it make any sense for an elite athlete to text a coach when he needs off-the-record funding, when all he has to do is call his bag man on a burner phone?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:34 pm to BourreTheDog
Name one coach that was under Freeze that got into trouble some where else. Saunders and Vaughn where not under Freeze. If Freeze knew about it then why is it reported Freeze isn't even named in the NOA?
The Saunders stuff is not petty it is a issue we have to take serious. Bjork is handling this in a way that he thinks is best for the NCAA and he doesn't care what other fans think. With Bjork saying no LOIC and it reported that no Failure to monitor, Freeze not personally named and not a repeat offender the "hammer" won't be what you want but Bjork has to take this serious and he is.
USC got a LOIC and it is not in the NOA so USC is a stupid comparison and ESPN reported Freeze isn't even named so how does he get a show cause?
The Saunders stuff is not petty it is a issue we have to take serious. Bjork is handling this in a way that he thinks is best for the NCAA and he doesn't care what other fans think. With Bjork saying no LOIC and it reported that no Failure to monitor, Freeze not personally named and not a repeat offender the "hammer" won't be what you want but Bjork has to take this serious and he is.
USC got a LOIC and it is not in the NOA so USC is a stupid comparison and ESPN reported Freeze isn't even named so how does he get a show cause?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:41 pm to cardboardboxer
Ole Miss will lose 2 scholarships
In women's bowling
In women's bowling
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:41 pm to AshLSU
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Never mind the fact that there was no excuse to ever be 2 and 10 as an SEC team.
As an LSU fan, I'm sure you remember the 2011 roster.
LSU could have cleared the bench and still doubled their score, if Miles hadn't taken the genuflect option.
To go from that dumpster fire to a bowl win in one season is a laudable accomplishment. I won't expect you to agree, since objectivity is apparently not your strong suit.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:44 pm to Kilgore Trout
That was not because of lack of talent in the team it was because that team had quit on Nutt. And that 2011 LSU team was just vicious.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:44 pm to Kilgore Trout
Kilgore trout had a five inch penis that was 7 inches around.
Do you read a lot of Vonnegut?
That book is better now with all the constant Erectile dysfunction ads.
Do you read a lot of Vonnegut?
That book is better now with all the constant Erectile dysfunction ads.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:55 pm to rockiee
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You can use that point to strengthen the argument that he started paying players.
I'm going to spell it out in a way that even the most slow-witted of you dunderheads might understand:
COACHES DO NOT PAY PLAYERS
Not even the HC at SMU was implicated in paying players.
Shadow boosters aka bag men pay players. Your alma mater has bag men; my alma mater has bag men. The coaches know that such men exist, but they do not know who these men are.
Is that clear enough?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:34 pm to cardboardboxer
Yes, but aTm really doesn't need to do what Ole Miss was doing. Yall have the infrastructure to win without it. I don't know why aTm hasn't done more in the past, but the framework is there.
I agree about CFB, it's the most uneven playing field in all of sports. It's nearly impossible for a team outside of the elite programs to win. You either have to have a truly great coach or you have to cheat your arse off. Even then, it's still damn near impossible to win it all.
There really is no equalizer either. That's why fans of blue blood programs would never understand what it's like for the rest of us.
I don't blame Ole Miss, but there is a little schadenfreude in me that would take some pleasure in watching them burn.
I agree about CFB, it's the most uneven playing field in all of sports. It's nearly impossible for a team outside of the elite programs to win. You either have to have a truly great coach or you have to cheat your arse off. Even then, it's still damn near impossible to win it all.
There really is no equalizer either. That's why fans of blue blood programs would never understand what it's like for the rest of us.
I don't blame Ole Miss, but there is a little schadenfreude in me that would take some pleasure in watching them burn.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:45 pm to makersmark1
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Do you read a lot of Vonnegut?
I've read and re-read everything the man wrote. I even met him once. He was tall, gnarly and reeked of cigarette smoke.
I chose Kilgore Trout as my username, not because of any particular dimensions, but because I've sold a few short stories in the genre of speculative fiction. Like Vonnegut's KT, I consider myself a visionary hack.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 7:23 pm to Kilgore Trout
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Since you claim to know a bag man, does it make any sense for an elite athlete to text a coach when he needs off-the-record funding, when all he has to do is call his bag man on a burner phone?
Didn't really make any sense for him to say on national TV that his coaches paid him in college either tho.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 7:49 pm to cincyykid
Under the former ncaa regime, 27 schollies over 3 years, one year bowl ban.
Under this ncaa, probably 8 schollies over 2 years.
With that said, I don't think anybody misses Yeagers days. That guy was brutal. He would tell u REAL QUICK he didn't need proof since he didn't have subpoena power. He would go over your allegations and say "it is the committee's belief" ..... the proof thing started with bunch. Ole miss probably caught a big break there.
Under this ncaa, probably 8 schollies over 2 years.
With that said, I don't think anybody misses Yeagers days. That guy was brutal. He would tell u REAL QUICK he didn't need proof since he didn't have subpoena power. He would go over your allegations and say "it is the committee's belief" ..... the proof thing started with bunch. Ole miss probably caught a big break there.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 7:59 pm to Kilgore Trout
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USC got a LOIC and it is not in the NOA so USC is a stupid comparison and ESPN reported Freeze isn't even named so how does he get a show cause?
Meh, Bama wasn't hit with LOIC control in the Albert Means thing nor was Mike DuBose found guilty of any wrongdoing. We canned the entire coaching staff. As a matter of fact the NCAA applauded our handling of the case and said so publicly,..then crushed the program to the point we could't compete from 03-08. The NCAA even said our coaches had no knowledge of what was happening. Their issue was the booster responsible was flying on the friggin team plane to games and coming to practice. Yea, seriously.
Again, this is a different NCAA but that LOIC, coaches knowing and so fourth really means nothing.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 8:01 pm to TouchdownTony
We still have 6 scholarships to give for this season. Hate to see them go.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 8:41 pm to TouchdownTony
But Bama was a repeat offender at that time.
Here is a Bama timeline and you can tell me if it is wrong but it says in 1999 Bama was warned that if it had any issues in the next 5 years to expect harsh punishment.
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So that would explain Bamas harsh punishment.
Here is a Bama timeline and you can tell me if it is wrong but it says in 1999 Bama was warned that if it had any issues in the next 5 years to expect harsh punishment.
LINK
So that would explain Bamas harsh punishment.
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:30 am to TampaReb
Are you telling us that Ole Miss reported to the NCAA that they were paying Tunsil?
Better hope they did, because that's what Tunsil said on national TV.
NCAA gonna shut down OM bowls for a very very long time.
Better hope they did, because that's what Tunsil said on national TV.
NCAA gonna shut down OM bowls for a very very long time.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 5:32 am to FishFearMe
Up and adam. Are you getting ready for school?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 5:53 am to FishFearMe
According to his attorney these text messages are already handled. He could be wrong but it's the closest involved source to openly talk about the text up to this point.
People can guess what Ole Miss not making a public statement means. Anti Ole Miss people guess it is because they are scared. Ole Miss fans guess it is because we are more focused on handling it with the NCAA then playing it out in public. Both are just guessing though because we don't know.
People can guess what Ole Miss not making a public statement means. Anti Ole Miss people guess it is because they are scared. Ole Miss fans guess it is because we are more focused on handling it with the NCAA then playing it out in public. Both are just guessing though because we don't know.
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