re: "What was Joe Alleva thinking when he offered this contract?"- footballscoop.com

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and only two of those wins(UL and Stan) were against a team that was anything to talk about. 79-72 record for those teams. take away the stanford win and that becomes 68-69. That game is pretty much the only quality win of his head coaching career.

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Yes, if you remove all of his wins over quality programs, he doesn't have any wins over quality programs.

I prefer to just look at his last game:

29-9 win over #13 Louisville, led by the Heisman winner.

Total yards: 394 - 220
Rushing yards: 177 - 67
Passing yards: 217 - 153

I have confidence that LSU will beat Auburn in Tiger Stadium this year.

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Yes, if you remove all of his wins over quality programs, he doesn't have any wins over quality programs.

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Just like you removed his ole miss games... btw I included all and removed just one game. The only quality game.

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Just like you removed his ole miss games...

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No, I simply removed all of the games from arse-suck town, you cherry picked games to remove.

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removed just one game

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The Citrus Bowl?

But, w/e, none of that matters. What matters is what he does this year. In spite of what you want to believe, there's no way to predict how successful he may or may not be at LSU at this point in time.

You have to pay to get the best coaches. LSU knows that. We only settle for the elite of the elite.

Top blue blood programs like LSU can afford whoever they want.

If LSU wins the SEC and makes the playoffs in the next couple of seasons, then everyone will say Alleva just got lucky.

I wanted Tom Herman and, had Alleva not walked away, I think LSU would have gotten Herman. But that's Alleva, he has very little idea how to do his job well.

I understand why Alleva hired Coach O, but there was no need to pay O more than $3 million and no need for that absurd buyout. I would have given O a 5-year contract at $3.0 million annually with good incentives plus a $1 million per year buyout. If O is very successful, he'll get top pay. If he is mediocre, he'll get axed in 3 years and we'd only hafta pay him $2 mil.

I will say this: looking at O's staff, I am thinking O won't be any worse than 9-3 these next three years. I think Dave Aranda is the best coordinator LSU has had on either side of the ball, in my 65 years of life.

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To be fair, NYCAuburn "took away" 1 game

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No, he didn't. He said the only quality win Orgeron had was Stanford at USC. He also neglected Louisville at LSU.

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You "took away" 36 games

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Yep, all from Mississippi - from 10+ years ago.

Orgeron had a 12.5% win rate vs the SEC at Mississippi, his combined conference win rate at USC and LSU to date is 76.9% - from the last 4 years.

But whatever, if you want to think he's the same level coach he was back in 2007 at Mississippi, that's your business. Make no mistake, I'm not one of the ones claiming LSU is going to go undefeated this year or anything, I'm just saying it's misleading to judge him as a coach based mainly on his time at Mississippi.

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No, he didn't

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umm yes I did. unless you are talking about all the games you actually took away from his career.

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He said the only quality win Orgeron had was Stanford at USC. He also neglected Louisville at LSU.

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Ummm, do you have a vision problem? I referred to UL, but don't act like they were a top team. They were marginally good.

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Yep, all from Mississippi - from 10+ years ago.

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So its okay for you to do it, but no one else.


The majority of his HC career is junk, you took away the majority and try to claim I am the one taking away games. I took away one anomaly from the already whittle down record you were talking about...

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I'm just saying it's misleading to judge him as a coach based mainly on his time at Mississippi.

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I judged him on his time outside of MS and it is still junk. 1-2 decent wins, thats it

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Ummm, do you have a vision problem? I referred to UL, but don't act like they were a top team.

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Here's what I'm referring to:

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take away the stanford win and that becomes 68-69. That game is pretty much the only quality win of his head coaching career.

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They [UL] were marginally good.

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They finished ranked higher than Auburn.


...hell, so did LSU for that matter - and that was in the middle of coaching change chaos.

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The majority of his HC career is junk...

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Of course it was, he was at a junk school. Put him at USC or LSU and his record is much better.

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you took away the majority

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More importantly, I took away the early part.

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and try to claim I am the one taking away games

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You started removing quality games from his recent career and I pointed that out is all.

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I judged him on his time outside of MS and it is still junk

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Orgeron is 12-4 in his last 16 games. If that is "junk", what does that make Malzahn's record of 10-6 over HIS last 16 games?

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A) he clearly said UL was a quality win

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Here's what I took exception with:

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That game [Stanford] is pretty much the only quality win of his head coaching career.

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It's funny the aubbie didn't count last years A&M game as a quality win for Orgeron.

I guess people feel like they have to get their digs in now before the trouble starts. But, good, he sucks, he wasn't even a good DL coach, his breath stinks, he's got foot fungus and no one can understand what he's saying. In short, he's a retard. I remember when everyone thought Miles was a retard. It must suck having your team get beat by a retard.

And I'm not saying one more goddamn thing ITT until Betty Paige gets an up vote. So frick allayall.