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re: What On Earth is Hugh Freeze Scared Of?

Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:45 pm to
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Freeze isn't close to being fired. If new stuff that is really big comes out maybe but there isn't anything that bad out there.


Dude, I don't think anyone including Ole Miss even knows what's "out there". shite was coming out on national TV during the draft that shocked the shite out of your own head coach. To say "there isn't anything that bad out there" is reaching on your part. The last two weeks in the wake of Tunsil's fiasco raised red flags that the OleMiss Administration as well as the SEC & NCAA will have to look in to.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10894 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:45 pm to
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So at people questioning Freeze's faith for not wanting to testify


quote:

Leviticus 5:1-3(NIV)

5 “‘If anyone sins because they do not speak up when they hear a public charge to testify regarding something they have seen or learned about, they will be held responsible.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68476 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:47 pm to
Freeze was present the night Tunsil kicked Miller's arse?
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10894 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:48 pm to
Apparently he learned about it.....nice try
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42620 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:50 pm to
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That's smart. Ole Miss doesn't want any loose lips during the deposition. Can't have Freeze/Luke/John Miller getting caught in a pickle and saying too much or their not coinciding with each other.


It's smart of them to ask for that but crazy for the judge to ok it. Overly restrictive and burdensome to the plaintiffs.
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:50 pm to
He said he was shocked living that moment out in real time. I'm sure Tunsil was shocked as hell that those text where posted living it out in real time. Doesn't mean Tunsil didn't know about them.

Yes they will look at and if they find something ok that might change it but what's out there is not going to have anyone at Ole Miss ask for Freeze's job.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:50 pm to
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You stated this as a fact when it is your opinion.


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The Rabbit literally said in his court filing that he wants to block the deposition because "at this time, the NCAA is considering allegations against the University and its football program, including allegations related to [Tunsil]."


Thank you!

This isn't my opinion or some TMZ bloggers opinion. Hugh Freeze doesn't want the NCAA getting their hands on information from the deposition. We don't know why he wants to block the deposition, but his attorney's have made a request.
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5471 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:51 pm to
Actually you can ask damn near anything and you're required to answer. Relevance objections are typically reserved for trial because discovery is allowable for ANY information that could lead to admissible evidence.
Posted by Cowbells
USA
Member since Aug 2012
538 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:52 pm to
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Freeze was present the night Tunsil kicked Miller's arse?




But he told the media as if he were there in the room : "Tunsil was just defending his mom"
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:53 pm to
'if anyone has a violation to report please send it to Ole Miss Compliance'


errr ummmm nevermind....discovery is a bitch
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:56 pm to
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I dont know why Freeze doesn't just come clean. The simple fact the step dad wants Freeze's testimony to support HIS case and not the druggie's case tells me all I need to know. The fight was, in fact, over the step dad's problems with the extra benefits and everyone with a brain knows that. Ole Miss is dead in the water




You are probably right. Amazingly, most of us, including myself, just assumed he was gold digging. He might have actually been the only righteous one of the bunch here.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:56 pm to
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He said he was shocked living that moment out in real time. I'm sure Tunsil was shocked as hell that those text where posted living it out in real time. Doesn't mean Tunsil didn't know about them.

Yes they will look at and if they find something ok that might change it but what's out there is not going to have anyone at Ole Miss ask for Freeze's job.


I don't think for one minute that Hugh Freeze knew those text messages between Tunsil and the freaking Asst AD existed. I don't think Hugh Freeze had a clue that Tunsil would say he got money from coaches. That's why no one knows what's out there or what's coming down the pike.

I've never insinuated that Freeze's job was in jeopardy. His job will be difficult no matter what happens with the most current NOA, and who knows if there have been add-on's since that letter arrived back in January?
Posted by EC Reb
Member since Sep 2012
647 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:57 pm to
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NCAA violations are relevant to the lawsuit because that's what Miller alleges started the argument. One would assume that if there were no NCAA violations then Freeze would be perfectly willing, under oath, to say that. Instead he wants to either be excused or have the transcript sealed. Pretty much the definition of a cover-up.


We already know there were violations. He was suspended 7 games. How can specifics of the violations be relevant to a defamation lawsuit? Keep in mind this guys lawyer is a State fan based out of Starkville and will undoubtedly ask stupid shite if allowed.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:59 pm to
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Freeze was present the night Tunsil kicked Miller's arse?


No he wasn't, but he made a public statement based on what Tunsil told him. Can Tunsil be trusted?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64488 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:59 pm to
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The scope must be relevant to the case.

actually no, it doesn't. if i think some random bit of of information may lead to something else that may be relevant, i can ask about it. it's fair game. relevance isn't even a proper objection at a deposition. but i'd love to hear about all the depositions you've conducted....

I do love when internet lawyers try to argue with actual lawyers about legal procedure. It's always a fun discussion
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 5:07 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:02 pm to
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How can specifics of the violations be relevant to a defamation lawsuit?
Because the violations were the reason for the altercation between Miller/Tunsil that later lead to the alleged defamation?
Posted by EC Reb
Member since Sep 2012
647 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:04 pm to
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The fight was, in fact, over the step dad's problems with the extra benefits and everyone with a brain knows that. Ole Miss is dead in the water

Oh so the step dad all of a sudden had a problem with the extra benefits? Dude had his hand out the entire time. Get a fricking grip.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

The fight was, in fact, over the step dad's problems with the extra benefits and everyone with a brain knows that. Ole Miss is dead in the water
quote:

Oh so the step dad all of a sudden had a problem with the extra benefits? Dude had his hand out the entire time. Get a fricking grip.



Well, if step dad and momma had their hands out and anyone connected with Ole Miss put anything in their hands, then there will be trouble.

I wonder myself, if momma couldn't pay the rent or the power bill then what the hell was step dad doing? Was he living with momma and not helping pay the bills? Did he know that Tunsil was hitting up the coaches and Asst AD for rent and utility money?
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 5:08 pm
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:07 pm to
I laugh a lot at this stuff but the fact has been clear for a while.

1) OM has played the Ncaa like a fiddle for years always acting like they do things the right way etc etc.

2) The Ncaa eventually found out they were made fools of and an investigation began.

3) During the investigation OM continued to do business as usual thinking they were too slick.

4) OM gets a letter of allegations from the Ncaa and claims to cooperate and clean things up - meanwhile doing business as usual and getting lawyered up.

5) The Ncaa is alerted to new facts and begins a new investigation which finds OM has not been truthful and in fact, yes, conducting business as usual.

So now it's possible OM falls under "repeat offender" after continued cheating after receiving their first letter. OM and the Ncaa will first resolve the current allegations with a second letter to come likely after Christmas in early 2017.
Posted by Spaniard
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2011
750 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 5:07 pm to
If he's got his hand out then just stuff some cash in it and stop this case. Unless it's not about the money......
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