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re: What is it about Nick Saban that makes him such an extraordinary Head Coach?

Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:04 am to
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:04 am to
Urban has feelings, huh?
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:11 am to
Short man syndrome. No amount of coaching elite talent or winning championships will ever change the fact that Saban, literally but not figuratively, looks up to someone like Paul Finebaum even when wearing his shoe lifts. Being vertically challenged is an every day thing for Saban so he is relentless in proving himself better than taller coaches, pretty much all of them and particularly the ones who tower over Saban even though they are of average or even below average height.
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:29 am to
5 in a row really hurts, huh?
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:11 am to
Attention to detail. In all aspects of the game.
Posted by tiger perry
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:22 am to
His intense drive to be the best and dominate imo
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:31 am to
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He recruits great players and then keeps it simple


What, lol! That defense is anything but simple. I've seen several former players mention how easy the transition was, because the playbook at Bama was bigger and more complicated.



It is definitely about the Jimmy's and Joe's, up to a certain point. But the talent levels between the elite teams is marginal. This is when his attention to detail makes him the best. Yes, he's a workaholic. But it's his detail oriented nature that makes him the best.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:34 am to
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He's heartless. That's what seperates him from everyone else. Miles, Urbs etc have feelings and care about players in general


Saban is an a-hole, but he's not a scumbag.

Urban is an a-hole and a scumbag.

Les just seems cool. But he hasn't had a similar level of success as the other two, even with a similar talent level.
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:34 am to
Good college coach. Won't beat you with lesser or equal talent though as NFL attests
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:34 am to
Regarding Saban's personal characteristics, it would be work ethic, drive and attention to detail IMO.
Posted by AshLSU
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:36 am to
He's the best at college football. In the NFL, not so much.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24112 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:37 am to
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Attention to detail. In all aspects of the game.


I figured someone would beat me to it. But I'll give an example.


Bama knew about Clemson's tendency to leave an outside gap at the frontline on kickoffs. They noticed it when watching film. When the time as right, and when they saw the opportunity, they pounced on it. Most other teams didn't consider an inside kick like that, even though it had been there all season.


Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:43 am to
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Regarding Saban's personal characteristics, it would be work ethic, drive and attention to detail IMO.
Exactly. Unless Saban is at a convention hosted by the DAAA (Dwarf Athletic Association of America) he is never the tallest man in the room so he overcompensates in other areas. Saban doesn't see eye to eye with anyone in his profession but his work ethic is second to none and it shows in the results.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:47 am to
I'm going with the obvious answer. His brain sits so low to the ground that there's very little effort required to circulate his cold, reptilian blood. It's simple physics, people.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:58 am to
He does many things very well.

great recruiter
teaches his players the proper technique and more importantly develops them.

I think this is the most important, he teaches his player to do their job. Don't worry about the guy next to you, do your job and do it the best.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:08 pm to
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The intangibles (I think). His players compete every play, and that's not just having a talented group. That comes from being obsessed with preparation and pushing your players to their limit during practice. Maybe it just comes down to the stress he imposes on his teams that translates into victories on the field.

The tangibles (obvious, and probably not exhaustive). He has great coordinators and knows how to recruit like a son of a bitch.


Nailed it! The man is OCD about preparation - ask anyone who has coached for him. His "process" is grounded in preparation and then using that preparation to execute your fricking job.

That "process" trickles down from Saban to his coaching/administrative staff to his players on down to the people fixing food/drinks to the folks working the phones and on down to the guys picking up the trash & washing the towels.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:08 pm to
Saban is the best all time at the details and stacking the deck in his favor. He's relentless on the recruiting trail, fights for rules changes that help his system, bends the rules just enough, etc.
It's one of the reasons he's successful in college, but it's highly unlikely he would ever have the same level of success in the NFL. The NFL is structured in a way that levels the playing filed and it's more about the X's and O's on game day when compared to college.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:09 pm to
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I think this is the most important, he teaches his player to do their job. Don't worry about the guy next to you, do your job and do it the best.


Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:11 pm to
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Saban is the best all time at the details and stacking the deck in his favor. He's relentless on the recruiting trail, fights for rules changes that help his system, bends the rules just enough, etc.
It's one of the reasons he's successful in college, but it's highly unlikely he would ever have the same level of success in the NFL. The NFL is structured in a way that levels the playing filed and it's more about the X's and O's on game day when compared to college.


Very true. And at this point in his life, why work in the NFL where you can only get a couple of top shelf players a year when you can get a couple of dozen a year in college?
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17584 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:20 pm to
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REC and Emmert. Stick him in an average situation and he is just above average. Let him cheat as he please and have boosters running around helping buy recruits and any coach in the nation would have the success he has at Bama


Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17584 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:27 pm to
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Short man syndrome

I don't think that's it.

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