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re: What is it about Nick Saban that makes him such an extraordinary Head Coach?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:57 am to JETigER
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:57 am to JETigER
has anyone mentioned that he is a complete sociopath?
Kinda kidding, but the guy demands excellence. He doesn't just say it either, he walks the walk. His discipline and structure is what puts him over the top. He isn't one of those people who say oh well you'll get it tomorrow, he is the one that says you get it today or never, because today is the only day that matters.
Kinda kidding, but the guy demands excellence. He doesn't just say it either, he walks the walk. His discipline and structure is what puts him over the top. He isn't one of those people who say oh well you'll get it tomorrow, he is the one that says you get it today or never, because today is the only day that matters.
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:38 am to Rabern57
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Stick him in an average situation and he is just above average. Let him cheat as he please and have boosters running around helping buy recruits and any coach in the nation would have the success he has at Bama
I'm about 99% sure you don't actually believe this. Nick Saban would have won the SEC last year with just about any team save Vandy, and even then he'd probably win the east. If you do actually believe that, you're an idiot and there is no help for you.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:41 am to Masterag
Recruiting and his players say he's an incredible motivator.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 4:01 am to RegisteredPharmacist
He's the most driven coach in football.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 5:54 am to RegisteredPharmacist
His track record of hiring assistant coaches is pretty good. Sans Applewhite and Steele.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:28 am to Sid E Walker
There is very little parity within the SEC. We've all seen what Saban can do in a league with parity.
Coaches in the SEC are facing an "uphill" battle against Bama and the league offices which are heavily influenced by Bama. The media days event in 2013 was a "HUGE" wake-up call for me. Sumlin came into the league and upset the "apple cart". The league quickly stepped in to try to change the rules to benefit the Bama program. They didn't "officially" change the rules, but it was clear the referees called the games differently going forward.
There are also several random "SEC" football only recruiting and transfer rules that don't exist anywhere else in the NCAA and only stand to reduce parity within the conference.
Coaches in the SEC are facing an "uphill" battle against Bama and the league offices which are heavily influenced by Bama. The media days event in 2013 was a "HUGE" wake-up call for me. Sumlin came into the league and upset the "apple cart". The league quickly stepped in to try to change the rules to benefit the Bama program. They didn't "officially" change the rules, but it was clear the referees called the games differently going forward.
There are also several random "SEC" football only recruiting and transfer rules that don't exist anywhere else in the NCAA and only stand to reduce parity within the conference.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:32 am to Chill98
wait do you're blaming the SEC for Sumlin bring a terrible coach? 
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:47 am to RegisteredPharmacist
he's too ugly and short to get beautiful women so he throws himself into his work.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:49 am to Errerrerrwere
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He knows the devil well enough to make a deal with him?
Here's hoping that it was a 10 year deal that started right before he jumped off of that sinking ship of a job as the Dolphins head coach.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:55 am to AU24
quote:Jealous little brother..
AU24
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:02 am to RegisteredPharmacist
Focus, drive, motivation
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:05 am to nc14
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Singleness of purpose like none other. Try to match it.
This. Focus is a big part of it.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:04 am to JETigER
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would nick Saban be as good if he didn't crash and burn with the Cleveland Browns and belichick
His last season in Cleveland they went 11-5 and went to the Playoffs, then in 1995 he left and went to Michigan State (Belichick's last year in which they collapsed after the announcement was made about the move to Baltimore).
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:20 am to makersmark1
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He understands that "you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shite"; great recruiter and understands how to teach his system on defense.
His defense is complex. Lots of checks and handoffs depending on formations, etc.
Spread makes him have to simplify, but not just any spread. A spread with Cam, JFF, Tebow, Nick Marshall, etc works best bc the QB has to be accounted for running and passing.
In general though, CNS is a great coach when he has top talent. There are no miracles out on the football field. It's the Jimmies and the Joes, not the X's and the O's most of the time.
I agree with your post except for the last part. Saban went undefeated in the regular season in 2008 with mostly Shula's recruits. That team had very little talent except for a few freshmen and sophomores that Saban had brought in.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:21 am to MoarKilometers
quote:So being "an overbearing a-hole" is the reason he's such a great coach, huh?
If he's like the one coach I had who was one of the top in his sport... it has to be being an overbearing a-hole. He also used to have a huge recruiting advantage before he moved to college. Generally an unlikeable prick, but damn he coached a lot of Olympians and American record holders. Not much taller than Saban and equally mediocre in his competing days just my 2¢.
Edit: coached us to 30% of our 2012 olympic medals, but what do I know about elite coaches.
you're a fricking idiot. 
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:35 am to TouchdownTony
quote:This is an excellent assessment. People wouldn't believe how much he mirrors Coach Bryant in his coaching philosophy.
Best evaluator of talent this side of Jimmy Johnson
Players are put in correct positions where they can thrive. Lots of players change positions with him and then become stars.
Preparation. There is nothing a team does he's not prepared for.
Hands on. I had a chance to visit one practice. He is all up in the defense. Every detail is scrutinized and he is NEVER satisfied.
He had punt returners just catching punts that day. Just one rep after another and one returner extended his arms to catch a punt and Saban went apeshite. He used every 4 letter word known to man 3 times over. Told the returner to get off his field. Never saw the kid again.
Biggest one- he is THE voice. Nothing, nothing happens that he doesn't believe in. He is the beginning and end of the program and everybody from the d coordinator to the grounds crew knows it and nobody questions him. Nothing is done by committee. He chews his assistants arses more than players. There is one voice and he leaves no doubt he is in charge.
He plays ball the right way. Stop the run, Run the ball and don't turn it over. Be sound in the kicking game. Simple formula that has always won football games. Stop the run, Run the football.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:40 am to RegisteredPharmacist
He's driven and detail oriented to the point of autism it seems (no, I don't think he's actually autistic). He is wired in a way where he cannot stand failure, and as a head college football coach at a major school, he can control every aspect of the program to ensure that success.
He didn't have the same level of control in the NFL, and it undermined his ability to succeed. He wasn't terrible in the NFL, but he wasn't special either.
He didn't have the same level of control in the NFL, and it undermined his ability to succeed. He wasn't terrible in the NFL, but he wasn't special either.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:48 am to TailbackU
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Saban was smart enough to understand who the power brokers throughout the state are, how the machine works, and how to communicate with the REC while keeping a plausible deniability distance from them while he works that relationship with Emmert at the NCAA, and getting the administration to fall in line at home. That coupled with the fact that he is highly organized and motivated and you get the dynasty he has built today.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:53 am to Feelthebarn
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If we knew the answer to this question every coach in the sec would be badass
Freeze is figuring out the answer that saban has had, but no you assholes won't let the process work.
Damn cheatin Reb Bears you ain't supposin to be no good.
Alabamas is supposed to bbe good it's tradition. But ain't no ole misses turning over this applecart
Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:05 am to RegisteredPharmacist
He's heartless. That's what seperates him from everyone else. Miles, Urbs etc have feelings and care about players in general
Sabs not so much. It's a negative but when you win like he does at this stage in his career fans accept it easier.
Sabs not so much. It's a negative but when you win like he does at this stage in his career fans accept it easier.
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