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re: What if LSU not been screwed on that last play?
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:53 am to KaiserSoze99
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:53 am to KaiserSoze99
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So, why fire Les when it wasn't his fault?
Miles was dressed like a whore 1 too many times, and he got it
victim shaming I know
plus I don't think we got that play off, and if you watch it Dural was in motion anyway
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:53 am to KaiserSoze99
That last play gave them an excuse to run Miles out of town. They can have no complaints.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:56 am to KaiserSoze99
Those are fair points, but I truly think Miles was retained last season on the condition that he changed the offense. Through 4 games this year, it was painfully obvious that the offense didn't change a lick. That is why he was fired. Not because he lost to Wisconsin by 2 points and to Auburn by 5.
Let's not forget the terrible offensive performance in the second half (that nearly cost us the game) against a bad Mississippi state team.
I think there are pros and cons to firing a coach this early. if he was going to be fired at the end of the year anyway, what difference does it make?
Let's not forget the terrible offensive performance in the second half (that nearly cost us the game) against a bad Mississippi state team.
I think there are pros and cons to firing a coach this early. if he was going to be fired at the end of the year anyway, what difference does it make?
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:56 am to 4th and 1
The SEC Rant loved Miles because they knew what LSU would be with him.
You are all so nervous that LSU will get someone like Tom Herman or Jimbo Fisher. I love it.
You are all so nervous that LSU will get someone like Tom Herman or Jimbo Fisher. I love it.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:06 am to UpToPar
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but I truly think Miles was retained last season on the condition that he changed the offense.
I keep reading that line and it makes no sense to me. If Joe would have forced him to fire Cam I would get it but that didn't happen.
It seems to me that the coup failed last year, and due to that Les was able to give token concessions (like "I will change the offense but not change the personal") because he had consolidated power.
Les's power was erased when Wincy won, which gave Joe what he needed politically to fire Les.
That is the only explanation that fits the facts. "Les made a promise and he lied!" sounds like 8 year old girl logic.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:13 am to UpToPar
Fair enough.
I suppose if they demanded an offensive change and Les knew it, and still retained Cam, despite their warnings, he should have expected to be canned.
It could have been handled much better (and believe me, we know about shitty handling of a coach's firing [Sherman]). Now, the optic to coaching candidates is that LSU won't even let you finish the season. It gives the appearance that LSU has unrealistic expectations.
They should have demanded that Les get a new offensive coordinator or be shown the door, at the end of last season. They screwed up both the management of Les and timing of his dismissal.
Now, the season is a wash and apathy looms. Major sports media will largely ignore LSU football for the next 2-3 months. It amounts to a near full season without LSU football. And Aggys know better than anyone about how one absent football season can completely destroy a program's momentum.
The good news is LSU is fricking LSU, and can bounce back quickly, IF they hire the right coach.
I suppose if they demanded an offensive change and Les knew it, and still retained Cam, despite their warnings, he should have expected to be canned.
It could have been handled much better (and believe me, we know about shitty handling of a coach's firing [Sherman]). Now, the optic to coaching candidates is that LSU won't even let you finish the season. It gives the appearance that LSU has unrealistic expectations.
They should have demanded that Les get a new offensive coordinator or be shown the door, at the end of last season. They screwed up both the management of Les and timing of his dismissal.
Now, the season is a wash and apathy looms. Major sports media will largely ignore LSU football for the next 2-3 months. It amounts to a near full season without LSU football. And Aggys know better than anyone about how one absent football season can completely destroy a program's momentum.
The good news is LSU is fricking LSU, and can bounce back quickly, IF they hire the right coach.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:15 am to KaiserSoze99
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So, why fire Les when it wasn't his fault?
It was his fault. The refs were gathered for a good minute. He (Les) knew the penalty was on them and they'd have to run another play. He should have had a play called and the kids lined up where we all knew the ball was going to be spotted.
Then he would have had a fighting chance to get the ball snapped. He didn't b/c he looked like a confused child trying to find his ball in the tall grass. He was ill-prepared, which seemed to be a constant theme of his time at LSU.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:16 am to lsu711
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The SEC Rant loved Miles because they knew what LSU would be with him.
You are all so nervous that LSU will get someone like Tom Herman or Jimbo Fisher. I love it.
bullshite. LSU needs to be good. The SEC is much better when LSU is a competitor. It hurts all of us.
We, unlike others that are within 100 miles of our university, understand the relationship between conference strength and the strength of individual programs.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:21 am to KaiserSoze99
What about #7 getting tackled at the goal line while the ball was going over his head? He was getting mugged. Should have been off setting penalties and play an untimed down. (IF the play had counted, which it shouldn't have, because...)
But Les was too stupid to get his team lined up on the ball in all the confusion between plays. All they had to do was have the center snap the ball at the sound of the whistle.
But Les was too stupid to get his team lined up on the ball in all the confusion between plays. All they had to do was have the center snap the ball at the sound of the whistle.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:23 am to KaiserSoze99
Yes, for the time being. And Gus Malzahn might have been fired.
Les probably would have been fired at year's end though. He might have even been fired after LSU's 2nd loss of the season.
And LSU didn't get screwed on the last play. But had they won Miles would still be employed.
Les probably would have been fired at year's end though. He might have even been fired after LSU's 2nd loss of the season.
And LSU didn't get screwed on the last play. But had they won Miles would still be employed.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 9:24 am
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:25 am to KaiserSoze99
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What if LSU not screwed up that last drive?
FIFY, and yes, he would still be coaching and Malzhan would either already be fired or would be within the next month (he still may be).
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:28 am to KaiserSoze99
Gus would have been fired then Auburn would be where LSU is
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:28 am to KaiserSoze99
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What if LSU not been screwed on that last play?
You mean what if LSU didn't screw up clock management or didn't let the clock hit zero without going for the endzone?
Les would still be coach but he clearly was being fired this year if he didn't win out
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 9:30 am
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:30 am to GenesChin
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You know, before you ignore another illegal formation, illegal shift, QB crossed the LOS before passing and the holding on that "play"
The corndogs are all wet with these statements. They are either dumb fricks or trolls...can't figure out which.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:30 am to Old Sarge
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Dude, they snapped it 2 seconds after the whistle blew that everyone
Is this some kind of troll?
If not, You have ZERO clue what you are talking about and should just keep quiet and stop being a dumby. Etling said he snapped the ball before any whistle was blown and while the refs were still getting set just to make sure the snap WASN'T late. Our disfunctional coach just accepted the ruling without an official review of the start of the play clock.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:30 am to KaiserSoze99
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The SEC is much better when LSU is a competitor. It hurts all of us.
I understand that the SEC benefits when it's teams are good. How does LSU being good help A&M? You lose more on the field and on the recruiting trail. There is very little opportunity for both LSU and A&M to be great. This is the challenge LSU faces with Bama, but I'd argue the problem is even worse with A&M.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:40 am to ArabianKnight
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What about #7 getting tackled at the goal line while the ball was going over his head?
Ummm, #7 was doing the tackling
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:41 am to KaiserSoze99
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What a terrible decision. The administration needs to be summarily fired for such thoughtless, emotional, panic-ridden decision-making.
When you make $5M+ a year to coach football, you better be perfect. LSU was far from that and the admin believes the team can improve. Nothing about this is thoughtless or panic-ridden.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:41 am to colors_of_kings
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Etling said he snapped the ball before any whistle was blown and while the refs were still getting set just to make sure the snap WASN'T late. Our disfunctional coach just accepted the ruling without an official review of the start of the play clock.
Im glad you preceded this ^^^ with
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You have ZERO clue what you are talking about and should just keep quiet and stop being a dumby.
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:43 am to KaiserSoze99
Les being fired was inevitable.
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