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re: What are realistic football expectations at each SEC school?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:30 pm to BHMKyle
Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:30 pm to BHMKyle
Fans are not happy with 8-4 seasons at A&M. That's one of the things that got R.C. Slocum fired. After winning the Big 12, he went:
8-4
7-5
8-4
6-6
Went 1-2 in bowls during that time.
Sumlin, since Manziel, has gone:
8-5
8-5
8-5
Going 1-2 in bowls.
Take away a cupcake win from each season since Slocum had 11-game regular seasons and you get:
7-5
7-5
7-5
8-4
7-5
8-4
6-6
Went 1-2 in bowls during that time.
Sumlin, since Manziel, has gone:
8-5
8-5
8-5
Going 1-2 in bowls.
Take away a cupcake win from each season since Slocum had 11-game regular seasons and you get:
7-5
7-5
7-5
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Posted on 6/14/17 at 4:34 pm to Prof
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Doesn't know the difference between a rebuild and normal. Of course, most UGA fans would tell you that Kirby's first year was actually a rebuild on par with ours because Richt couldn't recruit despite those fantastic classes.
Who exactly said that? I would say most UGA fans were disappointed with 8-5. Don't just make up crap.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 5:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Pretty fair expectation. I'd assume that a 6-6 type season immediately puts you in hot water (sans some sort of fantastic resume prior) and anything less than that is at the very least a "prove it next year or you are gone" type thing?
Probably. Although I'd hold out an exception if it was very apparent something was building. For example, the pieces are coming together, but in the year you were expecting 8-4 on the way to 10+, the SEC was just nasty or you had a major injury or something.
I'm not one of these fail to win X games, you're out! people, at least not necessarily so.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:42 pm to BHMKyle
Ewwwwww you put us with Miss. Schools
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Being honest, if we beat Clemson every 2 out of 3 years I'd be content.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 7:03 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Sumlin, since Manziel, has gone:
I think the problem is not just the overall record. It is that Sumlin has some bowling shoe ugly losses on his record. Losing a close or at least competitive game against Bama is one thing.
Taking a real beatdown is another. Sumlin has taken some curb stompings.
Most Arkansas fans were, if not thrilled, then at least willing to give Bert the doubt before some of the lop sided losses to middle of the road teams last year.
Sumlin has some bad losses at Texas A&M. That, I think, is what is going to cost him his job if he doesn't turn things around this year.
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:12 pm to CBandits82
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Bert has an overall losing record and conference record and he is no where near a hot seat.
Bert started with a universally acknowledged hot mess (that means everybody knew it.) Until this past year, all indications were that the program was on a slow but steady upward trajectory. Still could have been, save two inexplicable second half collapses to end the season. It's now wonder he still has an overall losing record, but it won't be that way for much longer.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:31 am to mutigerz
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Programs that need to go at least 6-6 or better each year for the fans to stay happy...
Kentucky
Missouri
quote:
Mizzou has 83 wins the last 10 years...8.3 wins per season. That is pretty reasonable expectation from fans.
What about the 10 years before that? 1997 - 2006 - 59 wins (5.9 per season)
What about the 10 years before that? 1987 - 1996 - 34 wins (3.4 per season)
What about the 10 years before that? 1977 - 1986 - 54 wins (5.4 per season).
What about the 10 years before that? 1967 - 1976 - 63 wins (6.3 per season).
You basing expectations on the last 10 years is like UT fans basing theirs on the 10 years from 1989 - 1998 (they averaged 10 wins per season during that stretch). Hindsight shows that is not a reasonable expectation for their program. 8 wins per season is probably not a reasonable one for Missouri, either.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 6:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
9 wins max.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:59 am to SummerOfGeorge
All I know that below is Sumlin's record, and we aint too happy.
11-2
9-3
8-5
8-5
8-5
11-2
9-3
8-5
8-5
8-5
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:36 am to bamasgot13
quote:The best thing about this post is that you really consider this a 'realistic expectation'.
Once Saban retires, I honestly think we will quickly adapt to a more realistic expectation of 9+ wins annually, SEC title every couple of years, and playoffs every 3 years.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
10-2 regular season winning the East. Lose to Alabama in the SECCG. Get a New Years Day bowl birth.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:06 am to CGSC Lobotomy
The standards at UF are ridiculously high. I doubt 9-3 would keep a coach in a job for long if he didn't win the SEC at least once every 3 to 4 years and the seat would be red hot if he wasn't winning the division.
I think, over a 5 year period, any coach that is going to last that long at Florida has to win 50 games minimum (including post-season and bowls). That would mean 10 wins a year plus a few SEC east division titles AT MINIMUM to keep his job secure.
9-3 over a 5 year time-span without an SEC title and that coach probably gets canned.
I think, over a 5 year period, any coach that is going to last that long at Florida has to win 50 games minimum (including post-season and bowls). That would mean 10 wins a year plus a few SEC east division titles AT MINIMUM to keep his job secure.
9-3 over a 5 year time-span without an SEC title and that coach probably gets canned.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:09 am to Aggie_2463
Why not these are the 10 seasons before Sumlin
6-6
4-8
7-5
5-6
9-4
7-6
4-8
6-7
9-4
7-6
Looks like Sumlin is your GOAT compared to the majority of your coaches
6-6
4-8
7-5
5-6
9-4
7-6
4-8
6-7
9-4
7-6
Looks like Sumlin is your GOAT compared to the majority of your coaches
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 11:40 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:39 am to UAtide11
quote:
uld at least put Gus on the hotseat
If Gustav goes 7-5, GTFO. He is already on the hot seat IMO. He has to prove he is better than 7-5 this year with the squad he has.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:50 am to SummerOfGeorge
Georgia has the most untapped potential of any program in the SEC, IMO. Anything under 9 wins should be unacceptable in any situation, unless it's a 2013 like team that is just gutted by injuries.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:00 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Post 2015: Mark Richt underachieved with all the Talent he had!
Post 2016: Kirby didn't do well cause he doesn't have the talent in place to succeed yet!
Which one is it?
Other.
Richt got fired because the talent level fell off, which led to getting shelled by anyone good.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:00 pm to Left Handed Catcher
The last time A&M had three consecutive losing seasons was 1971-1973. The last time t.u. did was 2014-2016.
The last time A&M failed to be bowl eligible two consecutive years was 1982-1983. Last time t.u. did? 2015-2016.
The last time A&M failed to be bowl eligible two consecutive years was 1982-1983. Last time t.u. did? 2015-2016.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:03 pm to Left Handed Catcher
You've paid 2 coaches 36 million total dollars for 3 seasons
5-7
5-7
5-7
One of the many reasons everyone laughs at you
5-7
5-7
5-7
One of the many reasons everyone laughs at you
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:08 pm to Jebeco
Hey buddy, how've you been this offseason?
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