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re: Vols RB Jeremy Lewis transferring and other nugs from the dumpster fire

Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:03 am to
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:03 am to
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I just don't think we can obtain the kind of success we had mid 90's to early 00's again.


I still think you guys are in an ok spot, especially when you consider how bad the East is at the moment. If Butch doesn't turn it around then I really do think the next hire is going to be extremely important. It is going to be tougher and tougher to get back to where you guys were the further you get away from those great years.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:24 am to
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Where would Bama be today if Saban hadn't been available the year they need a coach?


Depends on who they hired. They certainly wouldn't be trying to win their 5th national title in the last 8 seasons but with a competent hire they'd be highly competitive.

Mike Shula is widely considered an utter and complete disaster - and yet he had a winning record and went to a bowl every season but his first one - all while being saddled with massive NCAA sanctions.

Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 8:35 am to
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I still think you guys are in an ok spot, especially when you consider how bad the East is at the moment.


I don't see the animus towards Coach Jones. This year we had a bad cancer in the locker room, now excised. We've had a dozen injuries to our best players. It was taken as a given that the talent level was equal to any other SEC team. Coach Jones has done what he can do.

If your standard is that you have to beat Coach Saban, you (I mean a generic you) are setting a goal that defies quantification and will lead to more 'rebuilding years' and frustration.



This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 8:42 am
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:18 am to
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This year we had a bad cancer in the locker room


Coaches are responsible for not letting that happen
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:39 am to
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This year we had a bad cancer in the locker room

Coaches are responsible for not letting that happen


It would appear that Coach Jones did everything possible to make "mail it in" Hurd happy.

And the coaches don't control everything.
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 9:40 am
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:24 pm to
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It's not that I don't think we aspire to it, I just don't think we can obtain the kind of success we had mid 90's to early 00's again. With the internet, social media, and tv network deals there are a lot more options for people and players to get exposure. It will take a great hire (which UT can't seem to make) for it to happen again.


Tennessee can't make a great hire due to employing stubborn/incompetent athletic directors, a chancellor who hates sports, and infighting among boosters. That said, Tennessee is replacing two/thirds of the problem within the next couple months or so. If Hart is allowed to give Jones an extension, you can be confident that winning simply isn't a priority.
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted by keyboardcowboy
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2009
120 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 2:32 pm to
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It is, but it may not be an issue if the Lyle rumors are true. We're about to be flush with cash.


No we aren't (not that it's going to happen anyway--who would want him?). What the university would owe Butch is high if he gets fired. If he leaves, he only owes UT $2 million.
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